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 Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Problem with Defragmentation |
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Polly
Please post a copy of your Defragmentation Report ( using the Save As
option etc ) after you have run Disk Defragmenter. Run Disk CleanUp
before running Disk Defragmenter.
To increase you free space on your XP partition select Start, All
Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp, More Options,
System Restore and remove all but the latest System Restore points?
Restore points can be quite large
You need 15% free disk space to run Disk Defragmenter to good effect.
Large files can cause problems where free dis space is fragmented.
Running Disk Defragmenter more than once can help.
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Polly wrote:
| Quote: | John
Just browsing the discussion to see if I could find something helpful
and noted this thread - I am using this site for the first time so I
hope you dont mind me picking up on an old discussion you have been
involved in.
My problem is that after defrag I have 16gig of fragmented files that
cant be defrag'd- what coulkd they be and how do I do something about
it - any ideas.
I thought they may be photos and video clips as I have quite a few of
those stored so I tried to move them to an external hard drive and
delete them however some wont delete as orig file cannot be
found!?!?!?
"John Barnett MVP" wrote:
David, You are worrying un-necessarily. There are certain files that
'any' defragmentation application cannot defragment while Windows is
being used. The page file is one and so to is the hibernation file.
To defragment these the operation need to be performed from the
pre-start environment. In other words when the PC first starts, but
before Windows loads. Unfortunately, the Windows defragmenter
doesn't have this option, although there is a third party
application (I think its from sysinternals, but I don't have the
details to hand) that will defragment the page file.
If you need a defragmentation program that will defrag the page file
and hibernation file you really need to go for something like
PerfectDisk (but this is not a free application). You should also be
aware that defragmentation application can't defrag encrypted files.
Unfortunately, where Windows defragmenter is concerned it is a case
of 'too much information' which puts the fear of God up people.
Windows Vista, on the other hand, doesn't give a report, it simply,
automatically, defragments the drive on a set schedule. The only way
you will see a report 'of sorts' in Vista is if you defragment via
the command prompt.
Stop looking at the report defragmenter gives you as a possible
Armageddon, it isn't. Your system is working fine and you certainly
don't have to keep re-imaging the drive because you think their is a
problem, because there isn't!
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John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User
Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
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"david" <david@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FA3D2953-2AB1-473E-8071-18BC157B1426@microsoft.com...
Hi, recently i having this problem..when i do a
Defragmentation..but seem it
appear this message as below & i do a full recovery for my system.
Anyone can
helps me to fix this problem? Please advice, thank you o much. This
problem
still appear:
Defragmentation is complete for: (C:)
Some files on this volume could not be defragmented.
Please check the defragmentation report for the list of these files.
The report as below:
Volume (C
Volume size = 55.88 GB
Cluster size = 4 KB
Used space = 6.98 GB
Free space = 48.90 GB
Percent free space = 87 %
Volume fragmentation
Total fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation = 0 %
Free space fragmentation = 0 %
File fragmentation
Total files = 35,145
Average file size = 263 KB
Total fragmented files = 1
Total excess fragments = 112
Average fragments per file = 1.00
Pagefile fragmentation
Pagefile size = 720 MB
Total fragments = 1
Folder fragmentation
Total folders = 3,164
Fragmented folders = 1
Excess folder fragments = 0
Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation
Total MFT size = 38 MB
MFT record count = 38,443
Percent MFT in use = 99 %
Total MFT fragments = 2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fragments File Size Files that cannot be defragmented
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Help!: Windows Update identifies my Windows pc as a Mac! |
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Merita,
If you have eliminated the possibility of an infected computer, I would (if
it were me) consider that through some unknown happenstance my Windows Update
software had become corrupted. I would try reinstalling Windows Update v3,
which can be obtained from here using whatever computer is required to obtain
the file:
..
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237
You might, also, find it necessary to install KB927891
This is my suggestion, based on feminine intuition and bears no resemblance
to expertise. Credit Shenan Stanley for the link listed above.
If you choose to try it, I hope it helps.
"Menta" wrote:
| Quote: | Beginning today, every time I try to access Windows Update I'm met
with the following message:
"Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site.
This website is designed to work with Microsoft Windows operating
systems only.
To find updates for Microsoft products that are designed for Macintosh
operating systems, please visithttp://www.microsoft.com/mac/."
Unfortunately, my computer is a Compaq Presario pc running MS
Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2 w/AMD Sempron
3500+ 994MHz 1.43 GB RAM, NOT a Macintosh!
Has anyone here ever heard of such a thing?
I'm scanning my entire system right now with an antivirus program.
I tried getting help from Micro$oft but THEY WANTED ME TO PAY for
any such help (which ironically makes me wish my pc was a Mac, and now
my next computer may very well be a Mac!), so I'm posting here in the
hope that maybe folks here can advise me.
On Aug 10, 4:28 am, Grand_Poobah
iss_boss.del...@delete.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
That's outrageous! Did you talk to a human at M$, or just number-button
hell? Sometimes it helps to just NOT press a single button and see if a
human comes on the line.
No, I went to the MS website and then it's support section, as I
recall, rather thanmake a call. It appeared that even to accept a call
from a Windows user in need of support Microsoft requires up-front
cash via credit card, based on what I saw at its website's Support
section.
Nice customer appreciation, huh?
I suspect someone buying a used car from the stereotypical sleazy
used car lot would receive better customer support from the seller.
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rroentgen
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Low Disk Space every boot |
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Disk Cleanup may not remove temporary files if they have been created or
accessed within the last seven days. If a virus scan is run then all files
that are scanned, including temporary files, may be marked as if having been
accessed at the time of the scan.
At the moment my Windows/temp folder occupies 20Gig of drive space because I
had Windows Live OneCare set to run a virus scan daily with the result that
the "date accessed" of the files in the temp folder never got to be more than
7 days old. This is agravated by OneCare seeming to create a temporary file
for its own use whenever it runs, of about 75Meg, which it fails to remove
when finished with what its doing.
"Gerry" wrote:
| Quote: | Are you using a backup programme such as Norton Ghost?
I am not sure whether you are seeing all files and folders. Go to Start,
Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings and verify that
the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is checked and "Hide
protected operating system files " is unchecked. You may need to scroll
down to see the second item. You should also make certain that the box
before "Hide extensions for known file types" is not checked. Next in
Windows Explorer make sure View, Details is
selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name,
Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still certain
folders that remain hidden and this regularly promps discussion about
"lost" disk space. The System Volume Information folders containing
System Restore points, which by default is allocated 12% of the drive /
partition, is just one example of what remains hidden.
It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System Restore
on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce it to 700
mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and select System
Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb and
exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK and
exit.
Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is
that for temporary internet files especially if you do not store
offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive.
Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this to
1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options,
General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At the
same time look at the number of days history is held.
The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change to
5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Italo3 wrote:
I have been getting the "low disk space" message every time i boot
up, saying that i only have 20MB-200MB left on the C drive, which i
know is completely wrong. I have deleted numerous files and transfer
countless files to my external hard drive for the past week, and if
this keeps continuing, im not going to have any more files to delete
to create space!! (running Windows XP, 40GB hard drive, 2.8gh P4, 1gb
RAM~ Dell 4600) In the past week i have cleared at least 10GB from my
hard drive since ive gotten the message.
When this occurs, windows explorer decides to restart itself
countless times in a row until i create more space, which has become
annoying. Also, for some reason, (dont know if this is related) my
taskbar has been resetting its settings and no programs show up on
the taskbar and it removes the quick launch bar. AND i have to go in
and uninstall/reinstall the audio device every boot up to get it to
work.
I noticed that going to regedit everytime i boot up is a short term
fix for the taskbar problem, but i really dont feel like going
through the trouble everytime i turn my computer on.
I also have noticed that the processes running on my computer have
decreased, from 50 to around 38+ which is weird.
I know a decent amount of stuff about computers and have been able to
keep the computer going like this for a week or so. Also, i am
debating buying a new computer just because of this one is getting
old, or is there a way that i can avoid that and just fix this issue.
Any help would be much appreciated! thanks!!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Low Disk Space every boot |
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Did you make the original post?
Disk CleanUp has never been the most effective tool. You need to run it
in all user profiles as otherwise it only removes file with in the User
Profile it is being run. You should also restart the cpmputer before
running Disk CleanUp as otherwise the system may not have finished with
them. Was the box before Temporary Files checked before you ran Disk
CleanUp?
You can use cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/
With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.
When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.
Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
I am surprised that you managed to generate 20 gb of temporary files.
Was this over a long period? What programme created so much?
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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rroentgen wrote:
| Quote: | Disk Cleanup may not remove temporary files if they have been created
or accessed within the last seven days. If a virus scan is run then
all files that are scanned, including temporary files, may be marked
as if having been accessed at the time of the scan.
At the moment my Windows/temp folder occupies 20Gig of drive space
because I had Windows Live OneCare set to run a virus scan daily with
the result that the "date accessed" of the files in the temp folder
never got to be more than 7 days old. This is agravated by OneCare
seeming to create a temporary file for its own use whenever it runs,
of about 75Meg, which it fails to remove when finished with what its
doing.
"Gerry" wrote:
Are you using a backup programme such as Norton Ghost?
I am not sure whether you are seeing all files and folders. Go to
Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings and
verify that the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is
checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is unchecked.
You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should also
make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file
types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View,
Details is
selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name,
Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still certain
folders that remain hidden and this regularly promps discussion about
"lost" disk space. The System Volume Information folders containing
System Restore points, which by default is allocated 12% of the
drive / partition, is just one example of what remains hidden.
It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit.
Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is
that for temporary internet files especially if you do not store
offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive.
Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this to
1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options,
General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At
the same time look at the number of days history is held.
The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change
to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the
cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Italo3 wrote:
I have been getting the "low disk space" message every time i boot
up, saying that i only have 20MB-200MB left on the C drive, which i
know is completely wrong. I have deleted numerous files and transfer
countless files to my external hard drive for the past week, and if
this keeps continuing, im not going to have any more files to delete
to create space!! (running Windows XP, 40GB hard drive, 2.8gh P4,
1gb RAM~ Dell 4600) In the past week i have cleared at least 10GB
from my hard drive since ive gotten the message.
When this occurs, windows explorer decides to restart itself
countless times in a row until i create more space, which has become
annoying. Also, for some reason, (dont know if this is related) my
taskbar has been resetting its settings and no programs show up on
the taskbar and it removes the quick launch bar. AND i have to go in
and uninstall/reinstall the audio device every boot up to get it to
work.
I noticed that going to regedit everytime i boot up is a short term
fix for the taskbar problem, but i really dont feel like going
through the trouble everytime i turn my computer on.
I also have noticed that the processes running on my computer have
decreased, from 50 to around 38+ which is weird.
I know a decent amount of stuff about computers and have been able
to keep the computer going like this for a week or so. Also, i am
debating buying a new computer just because of this one is getting
old, or is there a way that i can avoid that and just fix this
issue.
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Grand_Poobah
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Help!: Windows Update identifies my Windows pc as a Mac! |
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| Quote: | Beginning today, every time I try to access Windows Update I'm met
with the following message:
"Thank you for your interest in obtaining updates from our site.
This website is designed to work with Microsoft Windows operating
systems only.
To find updates for Microsoft products that are designed for Macintosh
operating systems, please visithttp://www.microsoft.com/mac/."
Unfortunately, my computer is a Compaq Presario pc running MS
Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2 w/AMD Sempron
3500+ 994MHz 1.43 GB RAM, NOT a Macintosh!
Has anyone here ever heard of such a thing?
I'm scanning my entire system right now with an antivirus program.
I tried getting help from Micro$oft but THEY WANTED ME TO PAY for
any such help (which ironically makes me wish my pc was a Mac, and now
my next computer may very well be a Mac!), so I'm posting here in the
hope that maybe folks here can advise me.
On Aug 10, 4:28 am, Grand_Poobah
iss_boss.del...@delete.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
That's outrageous! Did you talk to a human at M$, or just number-button
hell? Sometimes it helps to just NOT press a single button and see if a
human comes on the line.
No, I went to the MS website and then it's support section, as I
recall, rather thanmake a call. It appeared that even to accept a call
from a Windows user in need of support Microsoft requires up-front
cash via credit card, based on what I saw at its website's Support
section.
Nice customer appreciation, huh?
I suspect someone buying a used car from the stereotypical sleazy
used car lot would receive better customer support from the seller.
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M$ also has been known to waive the fee if it determines that the fix
they supply IS NEEDED by your system to fix the problem. Unfortunately,
THEY are the ones that make that determination.
I'd go with Angie's solution before trying M$ again.
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nass
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Low Disk Space every boot |
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"Gerry" wrote:
| Quote: | Did you make the original post?
Disk CleanUp has never been the most effective tool. You need to run it
in all user profiles as otherwise it only removes file with in the User
Profile it is being run. You should also restart the cpmputer before
running Disk CleanUp as otherwise the system may not have finished with
them. Was the box before Temporary Files checked before you ran Disk
CleanUp?
You can use cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/
With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.
When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.
Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
I am surprised that you managed to generate 20 gb of temporary files.
Was this over a long period? What programme created so much?
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It is the Squirrel collecting Nuts for winter LOL.
| Quote: | Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
rroentgen wrote:
Disk Cleanup may not remove temporary files if they have been created
or accessed within the last seven days. If a virus scan is run then
all files that are scanned, including temporary files, may be marked
as if having been accessed at the time of the scan.
At the moment my Windows/temp folder occupies 20Gig of drive space
because I had Windows Live OneCare set to run a virus scan daily with
the result that the "date accessed" of the files in the temp folder
never got to be more than 7 days old. This is agravated by OneCare
seeming to create a temporary file for its own use whenever it runs,
of about 75Meg, which it fails to remove when finished with what its
doing.
"Gerry" wrote:
Are you using a backup programme such as Norton Ghost?
I am not sure whether you are seeing all files and folders. Go to
Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings and
verify that the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is
checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is unchecked.
You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should also
make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file
types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View,
Details is
selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name,
Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still certain
folders that remain hidden and this regularly promps discussion about
"lost" disk space. The System Volume Information folders containing
System Restore points, which by default is allocated 12% of the
drive / partition, is just one example of what remains hidden.
It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit.
Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is
that for temporary internet files especially if you do not store
offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive.
Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this to
1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options,
General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At
the same time look at the number of days history is held.
The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change
to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the
cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Italo3 wrote:
I have been getting the "low disk space" message every time i boot
up, saying that i only have 20MB-200MB left on the C drive, which i
know is completely wrong. I have deleted numerous files and transfer
countless files to my external hard drive for the past week, and if
this keeps continuing, im not going to have any more files to delete
to create space!! (running Windows XP, 40GB hard drive, 2.8gh P4,
1gb RAM~ Dell 4600) In the past week i have cleared at least 10GB
from my hard drive since ive gotten the message.
When this occurs, windows explorer decides to restart itself
countless times in a row until i create more space, which has become
annoying. Also, for some reason, (dont know if this is related) my
taskbar has been resetting its settings and no programs show up on
the taskbar and it removes the quick launch bar. AND i have to go in
and uninstall/reinstall the audio device every boot up to get it to
work.
I noticed that going to regedit everytime i boot up is a short term
fix for the taskbar problem, but i really dont feel like going
through the trouble everytime i turn my computer on.
I also have noticed that the processes running on my computer have
decreased, from 50 to around 38+ which is weird.
I know a decent amount of stuff about computers and have been able
to keep the computer going like this for a week or so. Also, i am
debating buying a new computer just because of this one is getting
old, or is there a way that i can avoid that and just fix this
issue.
Any help would be much appreciated! thanks!!
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Italo3
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Low Disk Space every boot |
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Gerry, i have done almost everything that you have said and the problem still
exists! I dont know what else i can do, i could install another hard drive,
the one i have is an ATA drive, but im not sure that the extra one i have is
ATA or if it matters. Also, what connections do i need to be able to hook up
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Gerry
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: Low Disk Space every boot |
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What is the make and model for the spare drive and your existing drive?
There are guidance notes / tutorials ob=n the internet but we need to
know more about the drives.
What is the make and model of your computer?
This freeware programme is excellent for getting information about
your computer:
Everest Home Edition (freeware)
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html
Tip: To copy select Report, Quick Report, Plain Text, highlight
required text, right click and select copy. However, whilst this is
fine for posting small amounts of information into newsgroup messages
longer reports will irritate other newsgroup subscribers.
This programme may help you get a better idea how your drive is being
used
http://foldersize.sourceforge.net/
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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Italo3 wrote:
| Quote: | Gerry, i have done almost everything that you have said and the
problem still exists! I dont know what else i can do, i could install
another hard drive, the one i have is an ATA drive, but im not sure
that the extra one i have is ATA or if it matters. Also, what
connections do i need to be able to hook up another hard drive. |
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rroentgen
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:58 am Post subject: Re: Low Disk Space every boot |
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"Gerry" wrote:
| Quote: | Did you make the original post?
Which post? |
| Quote: | Disk CleanUp has never been the most effective tool. You need to run it
in all user profiles as otherwise it only removes file with in the User
Profile it is being run. You should also restart the cpmputer before
running Disk CleanUp as otherwise the system may not have finished with
them. Was the box before Temporary Files checked before you ran Disk
CleanUp?
I have Windows Live OneCare which runs Disk Cleanup Automatically as part of |
a regular TuneUp schedule. There is no choice to run Windows Live OneCare in
any particular user profile. Since tuneup is set to run weekly, the computer
will have been rebooted several times in between.
The problem is not that Disk CleanUp is not doing a thorough job. The
problem is that it is not doing its job at all!!
| Quote: |
With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.
When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one has
irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.
Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
I am surprised that you managed to generate 20 gb of temporary files.
Was this over a long period? What programme created so much?
|
Most of these Temporary files in the Windows/temp folder were created after
16 June 2007; which is about the date that I first installed Windows Live
OneCare.
Furthermore most of these temporary files were created at about the date and
time on which OneCare ran one of its schedules or when I run OneCare to view
scan reports.
| Quote: |
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
rroentgen wrote:
Disk Cleanup may not remove temporary files if they have been created
or accessed within the last seven days. If a virus scan is run then
all files that are scanned, including temporary files, may be marked
as if having been accessed at the time of the scan.
At the moment my Windows/temp folder occupies 20Gig of drive space
because I had Windows Live OneCare set to run a virus scan daily with
the result that the "date accessed" of the files in the temp folder
never got to be more than 7 days old. This is agravated by OneCare
seeming to create a temporary file for its own use whenever it runs,
of about 75Meg, which it fails to remove when finished with what its
doing.
"Gerry" wrote:
Are you using a backup programme such as Norton Ghost?
I am not sure whether you are seeing all files and folders. Go to
Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings and
verify that the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is
checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is unchecked.
You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should also
make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file
types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View,
Details is
selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before Name,
Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still certain
folders that remain hidden and this regularly promps discussion about
"lost" disk space. The System Volume Information folders containing
System Restore points, which by default is allocated 12% of the
drive / partition, is just one example of what remains hidden.
It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit.
Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is
that for temporary internet files especially if you do not store
offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive.
Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this to
1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options,
General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At
the same time look at the number of days history is held.
The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change
to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the
cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it get
too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it will
bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Italo3 wrote:
I have been getting the "low disk space" message every time i boot
up, saying that i only have 20MB-200MB left on the C drive, which i
know is completely wrong. I have deleted numerous files and transfer
countless files to my external hard drive for the past week, and if
this keeps continuing, im not going to have any more files to delete
to create space!! (running Windows XP, 40GB hard drive, 2.8gh P4,
1gb RAM~ Dell 4600) In the past week i have cleared at least 10GB
from my hard drive since ive gotten the message.
When this occurs, windows explorer decides to restart itself
countless times in a row until i create more space, which has become
annoying. Also, for some reason, (dont know if this is related) my
taskbar has been resetting its settings and no programs show up on
the taskbar and it removes the quick launch bar. AND i have to go in
and uninstall/reinstall the audio device every boot up to get it to
work.
I noticed that going to regedit everytime i boot up is a short term
fix for the taskbar problem, but i really dont feel like going
through the trouble everytime i turn my computer on.
I also have noticed that the processes running on my computer have
decreased, from 50 to around 38+ which is weird.
I know a decent amount of stuff about computers and have been able
to keep the computer going like this for a week or so. Also, i am
debating buying a new computer just because of this one is getting
old, or is there a way that i can avoid that and just fix this
issue.
Any help would be much appreciated! thanks!!
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On Aug 10, 12:39 am, "Gerry" <ge...@nospam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Does pagefile usage rise and fall at an acceptable level or steadily
rise?
You may find it helpful to know exactly how much of your pagefile is
being used. Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage.
Start it to run immediately after start-up and look at the log at the
end of the session.The log is Pagefile log.txt. If you right click on
the file in Windows Explorer and select Send to, Desktop (Create
Shortcut). The same applies to XP_PageFileMon.exe.
A small utility to monitor pagefile usage:http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm
Note programs using undo features particularly those associated with
graphics and photo editing require large amounts of memory so if you
use this type of programme check these first observing how the page
usage increases when they start and whether the usage decreases when
you close the programme.
Is Adobe Acrobat Reader used?
Have you compared incident times to Scheduled Tasks?
What programmes are typically running at any one time?
Is the computer left on 24/7?
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No high utilization apps are used on this notebook - user is a slow
typer that mainly uses it for email and occasional documents. - very
low utilization
Adobe Reader is used - but not noticeable when the issue occurs.
No custom scheduled tasks. Occasional Virus scanners, but not always
when the problem occurs.
Outlook, Excel and Word. Small excel documents - not big
spreadsheets.
Here's the log for one day of Pagefilemonitor:
8/10/2007 3:11:55 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 1:24:22 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 12:21:20 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 12:21:17 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 12:21:07 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 8:44:11 AM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 36 MB
Session Peak Usage: 36 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 8:43:13 AM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 32 MB
Session Peak Usage: 32 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 8:43:04 AM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 29 MB
Session Peak Usage: 29 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB |
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Gerry
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: Re: Extreme Intermittent keyboard problem - need expert help |
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Thomas
No problems indicated by any of the replies.
One aspect of your references to keyboards puzzles me. The Model you
mention does not seem to have a conventional keyboard. Please see
picture in link below:
http://www.dell.com/html/global/topics/gaming/en/emea/uk/dhs/systems-notebook.html
Can we look at the Event Viewer Logs please?
Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in the
System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last boot. No
Information Reports or Duplicates please. Indicate which also appear in
a previous boot.
You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.
HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us
Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)
A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
thomasjbs@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | On Aug 10, 12:39 am, "Gerry" <ge...@nospam.com> wrote:
Does pagefile usage rise and fall at an acceptable level or steadily
rise?
You may find it helpful to know exactly how much of your pagefile is
being used. Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage.
Start it to run immediately after start-up and look at the log at the
end of the session.The log is Pagefile log.txt. If you right click on
the file in Windows Explorer and select Send to, Desktop (Create
Shortcut). The same applies to XP_PageFileMon.exe.
A small utility to monitor pagefile
usage:http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm
Note programs using undo features particularly those associated with
graphics and photo editing require large amounts of memory so if you
use this type of programme check these first observing how the page
usage increases when they start and whether the usage decreases when
you close the programme.
Is Adobe Acrobat Reader used?
Have you compared incident times to Scheduled Tasks?
What programmes are typically running at any one time?
Is the computer left on 24/7?
--
No high utilization apps are used on this notebook - user is a slow
typer that mainly uses it for email and occasional documents. - very
low utilization
Adobe Reader is used - but not noticeable when the issue occurs.
No custom scheduled tasks. Occasional Virus scanners, but not always
when the problem occurs.
Outlook, Excel and Word. Small excel documents - not big
spreadsheets.
Here's the log for one day of Pagefilemonitor:
8/10/2007 3:11:55 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 1:24:22 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 12:21:20 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 12:21:17 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 12:21:07 PM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 12 MB
Session Peak Usage: 60 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 8:44:11 AM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 36 MB
Session Peak Usage: 36 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 8:43:13 AM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 32 MB
Session Peak Usage: 32 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB
8/10/2007 8:43:04 AM
Pagefile Physical Location: C:\pagefile.sys
Current Pagefile Usage: 29 MB
Session Peak Usage: 29 MB
Current Pagefile Size: 1536 MB |
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Gerry
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: Re: Low Disk Space every boot |
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You are obviously not the person posting the original problem. I know
little about Windows Live OneCare. You need someone who does. You could
of course uninstall OneCare. You would do better to start your own
thread and not piggy back someone elses thread as this leads to
confusion. Hence my uncertainty when I replied to your first message.
Use the New Message option to start a new thread and then use Reply to
for follow ups.
http://www.microsoft.com/library/gallery/components/wn/3/locales/help/help_en-US.htm#GettingStarted
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
rroentgen wrote:
| Quote: | "Gerry" wrote:
Did you make the original post?
Which post?
Disk CleanUp has never been the most effective tool. You need to run
it in all user profiles as otherwise it only removes file with in
the User Profile it is being run. You should also restart the
cpmputer before running Disk CleanUp as otherwise the system may not
have finished with them. Was the box before Temporary Files checked
before you ran Disk CleanUp?
I have Windows Live OneCare which runs Disk Cleanup Automatically as
part of a regular TuneUp schedule. There is no choice to run Windows
Live OneCare in any particular user profile. Since tuneup is set to
run weekly, the computer will have been rebooted several times in
between.
You can use cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/
The problem is not that Disk CleanUp is not doing a thorough job. The
problem is that it is not doing its job at all!!
With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.
When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one
has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.
Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
I am surprised that you managed to generate 20 gb of temporary files.
Was this over a long period? What programme created so much?
Most of these Temporary files in the Windows/temp folder were created
after 16 June 2007; which is about the date that I first installed
Windows Live OneCare.
Furthermore most of these temporary files were created at about the
date and time on which OneCare ran one of its schedules or when I run
OneCare to view scan reports.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
rroentgen wrote:
Disk Cleanup may not remove temporary files if they have been
created or accessed within the last seven days. If a virus scan is
run then all files that are scanned, including temporary files, may
be marked as if having been accessed at the time of the scan.
At the moment my Windows/temp folder occupies 20Gig of drive space
because I had Windows Live OneCare set to run a virus scan daily
with the result that the "date accessed" of the files in the temp
folder never got to be more than 7 days old. This is agravated by
OneCare seeming to create a temporary file for its own use whenever
it runs, of about 75Meg, which it fails to remove when finished
with what its doing.
"Gerry" wrote:
Are you using a backup programme such as Norton Ghost?
I am not sure whether you are seeing all files and folders. Go to
Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings and
verify that the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is
checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is unchecked.
You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should also
make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file
types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View,
Details is
selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before
Name, Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still
certain folders that remain hidden and this regularly promps
discussion about "lost" disk space. The System Volume Information
folders containing System Restore points, which by default is
allocated 12% of the drive / partition, is just one example of
what remains hidden.
It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit.
Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is
that for temporary internet files especially if you do not store
offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive.
Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this
to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options,
General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At
the same time look at the number of days history is held.
The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change
to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the
cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it
get too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it
will bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the
latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Italo3 wrote:
I have been getting the "low disk space" message every time i boot
up, saying that i only have 20MB-200MB left on the C drive, which
i know is completely wrong. I have deleted numerous files and
transfer countless files to my external hard drive for the past
week, and if this keeps continuing, im not going to have any more
files to delete to create space!! (running Windows XP, 40GB hard
drive, 2.8gh P4, 1gb RAM~ Dell 4600) In the past week i have
cleared at least 10GB from my hard drive since ive gotten the
message.
When this occurs, windows explorer decides to restart itself
countless times in a row until i create more space, which has
become annoying. Also, for some reason, (dont know if this is
related) my taskbar has been resetting its settings and no
programs show up on the taskbar and it removes the quick launch
bar. AND i have to go in and uninstall/reinstall the audio device
every boot up to get it to work.
I noticed that going to regedit everytime i boot up is a short
term fix for the taskbar problem, but i really dont feel like
going through the trouble everytime i turn my computer on.
I also have noticed that the processes running on my computer have
decreased, from 50 to around 38+ which is weird.
I know a decent amount of stuff about computers and have been able
to keep the computer going like this for a week or so. Also, i am
debating buying a new computer just because of this one is getting
old, or is there a way that i can avoid that and just fix this
issue.
Any help would be much appreciated! thanks!! |
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rroentgen
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Low Disk Space every boot |
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This thread concerns low disk space. I was raising the possibility that
failure of proper cleanup of temporary files is one possible reason for a
full hard drive. If the original poster has a regular virus scan in operation
then it seems to me possible that temporary files will never be removed.
Gerry, do you have any opinion on my postulate that a virus scan, of
whatever brand (be it OneCare, Norton, McAfee, Whatever) results in a file
being marked as having been accessed at the time that it is scanned. If it
does, then the disk cleanup utility that comes with windows XP will not
remove the temporary files if a virus scan has been done in the last 7 days.
Worse, disk cleanup will never remove temporary files if a virus scan is done
more than once a week.
I will take your suggestion and start a new thread on what may be a
deficiency with the disk cleanup utility.
Kenneth
"Gerry" wrote:
| Quote: | You are obviously not the person posting the original problem. I know
little about Windows Live OneCare. You need someone who does. You could
of course uninstall OneCare. You would do better to start your own
thread and not piggy back someone elses thread as this leads to
confusion. Hence my uncertainty when I replied to your first message.
Use the New Message option to start a new thread and then use Reply to
for follow ups.
http://www.microsoft.com/library/gallery/components/wn/3/locales/help/help_en-US.htm#GettingStarted
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
rroentgen wrote:
"Gerry" wrote:
Did you make the original post?
Which post?
Disk CleanUp has never been the most effective tool. You need to run
it in all user profiles as otherwise it only removes file with in
the User Profile it is being run. You should also restart the
cpmputer before running Disk CleanUp as otherwise the system may not
have finished with them. Was the box before Temporary Files checked
before you ran Disk CleanUp?
I have Windows Live OneCare which runs Disk Cleanup Automatically as
part of a regular TuneUp schedule. There is no choice to run Windows
Live OneCare in any particular user profile. Since tuneup is set to
run weekly, the computer will have been rebooted several times in
between.
You can use cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/
The problem is not that Disk CleanUp is not doing a thorough job. The
problem is that it is not doing its job at all!!
With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.
When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one
has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.
Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
I am surprised that you managed to generate 20 gb of temporary files.
Was this over a long period? What programme created so much?
Most of these Temporary files in the Windows/temp folder were created
after 16 June 2007; which is about the date that I first installed
Windows Live OneCare.
Furthermore most of these temporary files were created at about the
date and time on which OneCare ran one of its schedules or when I run
OneCare to view scan reports.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
rroentgen wrote:
Disk Cleanup may not remove temporary files if they have been
created or accessed within the last seven days. If a virus scan is
run then all files that are scanned, including temporary files, may
be marked as if having been accessed at the time of the scan.
At the moment my Windows/temp folder occupies 20Gig of drive space
because I had Windows Live OneCare set to run a virus scan daily
with the result that the "date accessed" of the files in the temp
folder never got to be more than 7 days old. This is agravated by
OneCare seeming to create a temporary file for its own use whenever
it runs, of about 75Meg, which it fails to remove when finished
with what its doing.
"Gerry" wrote:
Are you using a backup programme such as Norton Ghost?
I am not sure whether you are seeing all files and folders. Go to
Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings and
verify that the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is
checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is unchecked.
You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should also
make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file
types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View,
Details is
selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before
Name, Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still
certain folders that remain hidden and this regularly promps
discussion about "lost" disk space. The System Volume Information
folders containing System Restore points, which by default is
allocated 12% of the drive / partition, is just one example of
what remains hidden.
It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit.
Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is
that for temporary internet files especially if you do not store
offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive.
Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this
to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options,
General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At
the same time look at the number of days history is held.
The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change
to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the
cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it
get too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it
will bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the
latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Italo3 wrote:
I have been getting the "low disk space" message every time i boot
up, saying that i only have 20MB-200MB left on the C drive, which
i know is completely wrong. I have deleted numerous files and
transfer countless files to my external hard drive for the past
week, and if this keeps continuing, im not going to have any more
files to delete to create space!! (running Windows XP, 40GB hard
drive, 2.8gh P4, 1gb RAM~ Dell 4600) In the past week i have
cleared at least 10GB from my hard drive since ive gotten the
message.
When this occurs, windows explorer decides to restart itself
countless times in a row until i create more space, which has
become annoying. Also, for some reason, (dont know if this is
related) my taskbar has been resetting its settings and no
programs show up on the taskbar and it removes the quick launch
bar. AND i have to go in and uninstall/reinstall the audio device
every boot up to get it to work.
I noticed that going to regedit everytime i boot up is a short
term fix for the taskbar problem, but i really dont feel like
going through the trouble everytime i turn my computer on.
I also have noticed that the processes running on my computer have
decreased, from 50 to around 38+ which is weird.
I know a decent amount of stuff about computers and have been able
to keep the computer going like this for a week or so. Also, i am
debating buying a new computer just because of this one is getting
old, or is there a way that i can avoid that and just fix this
issue.
Any help would be much appreciated! thanks!!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Computer Freezes or Very Slow - Windows Explorer |
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 01:16:01 -0700, Hitesh Jain
| Quote: | System Restore is off fior both drives..
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I'd keep if on for just the OS drive, but scale down the allocation,
as SR is the only automatic full registry backup XP has. Else I'd add
ERUNT and automate that as a set of weekday Tasks, each saving to a
different location to maintain a 5-day FIFO.
| Quote: | I have OS and Programs installed on C: and data on D:.
Pagefile on C:
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Cool... how big is the pagefile? How large and full is C:?
| Quote: | Deafult system scan by AVG is disabled.. Only Resident AVG is enable.. Also
Spybot Teatimer is enabled for Spyware.. Both have latest updates.
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OK; I'd disable TeaTimer, I guess.
Guuud...
| Quote: | Outlook journaling is already disabled.
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Good, too
| Quote: | Mind Manager is an application that I use.. But will disable BHO
So basically I am at what you are saying with only diff being that 1GB RAM..
Still my machine is dead slow..
Also I check the event log and found the following:
DnsApi - Error
The system failed to register host (A) resource records (RRs) for network
adapter with settings:
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Dunno what that means?
| Quote: | Had Page file of 700Mb increased to 1.2GB but no change.
700M is enough. Is it on C
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OK on that pagefile Q, then.
| Quote: | How big are your browser caches? Keep 'em 50M or less, and check in
each user account as it's a per-account setting.
Multiple user accounts and fast user switching? That's a great way to
bloat your memory footprint and increase disk paging.
The pattern of slowdown you describe suggests possible shell
integration issues, or "namespace bloat".
Make sure you eject all removable drives and try to avoid network
drive letter mappings that may bloat the namespace refresh time.
Then carefully use Nirsoft's Shell Extensions Viewer...
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html
....to reversibly disable non-MS shell integrations that would be
active when Explorer refreshes namespace and/or folder views.
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Also, general profound and "lumpy" slowdown can happen if your HD's
IDE controller is in PIO mode (it's "lumpy" because the
processor-hogging effect interrupts media playback etc.).
To check UDMA status, do this:
- Control Panel, System icon, Hardware tab, Device Manager
- IDE (ATAPI) controllers; each Primary and Secondary
- Advanced tab; "current" should be UDMA if device present
- if the drop-down shows only PIO, read on...
This situation arises as a safety fallback after "too many" errors in
UDMA mode. Whereas UDMA releases the CPU during transfers, PIO
requires intensive involvement.
So the first thing to do would be to use HD Tune's SMART page to
check out the UDMA and other (more significant) error rates.
Then, if those are OK, carefully apply the registry fix, which resets
the error counters so that you can re-engage UDMA.
Google( XP PIO mode regedit )
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817472
I would skip the "hotfix", as well as the "workaround", and use the
registry fix at the end of that article. Read the details carefully,
as it is easy to chop the wrong stuff (such as the parent devices; no
need to touch those, bad things can happen if you do).
If the fix does not appear to "take", look again after shutting down
and restarting Windows. It's "one of those".
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Gerry
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Low Disk Space every boot |
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Kenneth
This thread was concerned about one users inability to reconcile free
and used disk space. You can see Temporary files so they are not hidden
users of disk space. I am trying to find out more about the use of Live
OneCare and to what extent it creates issues. The product is in it's
infancy. It may still be in Beta for all I know. I just haven't received
any feedback yet.
I have seen speculation recently on your virus scan point but I do not
know the answer. As I have said Disk CleanUp is not renowned for it's
efficiency. cCleaner does a better job, except with regard to removal of
System Restore points.
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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rroentgen wrote:
| Quote: | This thread concerns low disk space. I was raising the possibility
that failure of proper cleanup of temporary files is one possible
reason for a full hard drive. If the original poster has a regular
virus scan in operation then it seems to me possible that temporary
files will never be removed.
Gerry, do you have any opinion on my postulate that a virus scan, of
whatever brand (be it OneCare, Norton, McAfee, Whatever) results in a
file being marked as having been accessed at the time that it is
scanned. If it does, then the disk cleanup utility that comes with
windows XP will not remove the temporary files if a virus scan has
been done in the last 7 days. Worse, disk cleanup will never remove
temporary files if a virus scan is done more than once a week.
I will take your suggestion and start a new thread on what may be a
deficiency with the disk cleanup utility.
Kenneth
"Gerry" wrote:
You are obviously not the person posting the original problem. I know
little about Windows Live OneCare. You need someone who does. You
could of course uninstall OneCare. You would do better to start
your own thread and not piggy back someone elses thread as this
leads to confusion. Hence my uncertainty when I replied to your
first message. Use the New Message option to start a new thread and
then use Reply to for follow ups.
http://www.microsoft.com/library/gallery/components/wn/3/locales/help/help_en-US.htm#GettingStarted
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
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rroentgen wrote:
"Gerry" wrote:
Did you make the original post?
Which post?
Disk CleanUp has never been the most effective tool. You need to
run it in all user profiles as otherwise it only removes file with
in the User Profile it is being run. You should also restart the
cpmputer before running Disk CleanUp as otherwise the system may
not have finished with them. Was the box before Temporary Files
checked before you ran Disk CleanUp?
I have Windows Live OneCare which runs Disk Cleanup Automatically as
part of a regular TuneUp schedule. There is no choice to run Windows
Live OneCare in any particular user profile. Since tuneup is set to
run weekly, the computer will have been rebooted several times in
between.
You can use cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/
The problem is not that Disk CleanUp is not doing a thorough job.
The problem is that it is not doing its job at all!!
With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.
When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one
has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer
so that they can easily be re-entered.
Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
I am surprised that you managed to generate 20 gb of temporary
files. Was this over a long period? What programme created so much?
Most of these Temporary files in the Windows/temp folder were
created after 16 June 2007; which is about the date that I first
installed Windows Live OneCare.
Furthermore most of these temporary files were created at about the
date and time on which OneCare ran one of its schedules or when I
run OneCare to view scan reports.
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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rroentgen wrote:
Disk Cleanup may not remove temporary files if they have been
created or accessed within the last seven days. If a virus scan is
run then all files that are scanned, including temporary files,
may be marked as if having been accessed at the time of the scan.
At the moment my Windows/temp folder occupies 20Gig of drive space
because I had Windows Live OneCare set to run a virus scan daily
with the result that the "date accessed" of the files in the temp
folder never got to be more than 7 days old. This is agravated by
OneCare seeming to create a temporary file for its own use
whenever it runs, of about 75Meg, which it fails to remove when
finished with what its doing.
"Gerry" wrote:
Are you using a backup programme such as Norton Ghost?
I am not sure whether you are seeing all files and folders. Go to
Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings and
verify that the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is
checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is
unchecked. You may need to scroll down to see the second item.
You should also make certain that the box before "Hide
extensions for known file types" is not checked. Next in Windows
Explorer make sure View, Details is
selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before
Name, Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still
certain folders that remain hidden and this regularly promps
discussion about "lost" disk space. The System Volume Information
folders containing System Restore points, which by default is
allocated 12% of the drive / partition, is just one example of
what remains hidden.
It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would
reduce it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the
Desktop and select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C
drive select Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700
mb and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply
and OK and exit.
Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful
is that for temporary internet files especially if you do not
store offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of
drive. Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could
reduce this to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools,
Internet Options, General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to
make the change. At the same time look at the number of days
history is held.
The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive.
Change to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer
place the cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global
and move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid
letting it get too full as if it is full and you delete a file
by mistake it will bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk
CleanUp to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet
Files. Also select Start, All Programs, accessories, System
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