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 Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: Re: Meat is a prominent part of chimpanzee diet; pre-human h |
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When asking for your exact thesis you present:
'Theories of Human Evolutionary Trends in Meat Eating
and Studies of Primate Intestinal Tracts'
Which fully takes into consideration but one small slice of the full
thesis as you were requested. More important, it is not your thesis and
not one original word from you is presented. Not to be ignored is that
the paper has no problem including meat dietary sources and behaviors in
its views. It fits well within the concensus of accepted ideas on the
question of meat in the diet and provides a good example of how the
details not the central idea that meat *was* not involved are at issue.
We await your thesis in your words on the other 90 percent of that
requested of you. |
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Rudy Canoza
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: Meat is a prominent part of chimpanzee diet; pre-human h |
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ferrous@paris.com wrote:
| Quote: | When asking for your exact thesis you present:
'Theories of Human Evolutionary Trends in Meat Eating
and Studies of Primate Intestinal Tracts'
Which fully takes into consideration but one small slice of the full
thesis as you were requested. More important, it is not your thesis and
not one original word from you is presented. Not to be ignored is that
the paper has no problem including meat dietary sources and behaviors in
its views. It fits well within the concensus of accepted ideas on the
question of meat in the diet and provides a good example of how the
details not the central idea that meat *was* not involved are at issue.
We await your thesis in your words on the other 90 percent of that
requested of you.
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You'll wait in vain. She won't state any
scientifically credible or testable thesis. She
*can't* - she doesn't know science at all. |
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Harry
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| Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: Meat is a prominent part of chimpanzee diet; pre-human h |
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Rudy Canoza <pipes@thedismalscience.not> wrote in
news:13sot9grnd4thde@corp.supernews.com:
| Quote: | ferrous@paris.com wrote:
When asking for your exact thesis you present:
'Theories of Human Evolutionary Trends in Meat Eating
and Studies of Primate Intestinal Tracts'
Which fully takes into consideration but one small slice of the full
thesis as you were requested. More important, it is not your thesis and
not one original word from you is presented. Not to be ignored is that
the paper has no problem including meat dietary sources and behaviors in
its views. It fits well within the concensus of accepted ideas on the
question of meat in the diet and provides a good example of how the
details not the central idea that meat *was* not involved are at issue.
We await your thesis in your words on the other 90 percent of that
requested of you.
You'll wait in vain. She won't state any
scientifically credible or testable thesis. She
*can't* - she doesn't know science at all.
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pearl
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:03 am Post subject: Re: Meat is a prominent part of chimpanzee diet; pre-human h |
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"Harry" <HarryManhole@gman.net> wrote in message news:47cc8243$0$26068$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
| Quote: | Rudy Canoza <pipes@thedismalscience.not> wrote in
news:13sot9grnd4thde@corp.supernews.com:
ferrous@paris.com wrote:
When asking for your exact thesis you present:
'Theories of Human Evolutionary Trends in Meat Eating
and Studies of Primate Intestinal Tracts'
Which fully takes into consideration but one small slice of the full
thesis as you were requested.
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"With the above conditions of scholarship in mind, what is your exact
thesis about human evolution, development of meat tool handling
technology, interaction of humans with geography and changing food
resources as they spread worldwide into all environments, and changing
dietary behaviors?"
What was left out? "meat tool handling technology". Like?
| Quote: | More important, it is not your thesis and
not one original word from you is presented.
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You were given a paper by authoritative scientists in the field.
| Quote: | Not to be ignored is that
the paper has no problem including meat dietary sources and behaviors in
its views.
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It's always been accepted that meat was sometimes eaten.
| Quote: | It fits well within the concensus of accepted ideas on the
question of meat in the diet and provides a good example of how the
details not the central idea that meat *was* not involved are at issue.
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'Theories of hominid evolution have postulated that switching to
meat eating permitted an increase in brain size and hence the
emergence of modern man. However, comparative studies of
primate intestinal tracts do not support this hypothesis and it is
likely that, while meat assumed a more important role in hominid
diet, it was not responsible for any major evolutionary shift.
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Alternatively, the early cooking of gathered foods - and the
nutritional, behavioural and social consequences of this pattern -
could have been a major milestone in the hominization process.
http://www.publicaciones.cucsh.udg.mx/pperiod/esthom/esthompdf/esthom19/21-31.pdf
Which supports the arguments I've been posting all along.
| Quote: | We await your thesis in your words on the other 90 percent of that
requested of you.
You'll wait in vain. She won't state any
scientifically credible or testable thesis. She
*can't* - she doesn't know science at all.
Vegetariism is great if you like chronic diarhea.
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.... of the verbal kind, from desperate meat-head shills and trolls.
On the other hand...
'Dietary Risk Factors for Colon Cancer in a Low-risk Population
(white meat - fish, poultry)
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Strong positive trends were shown for red meat intake among
subjects who consumed low levels (0-<1 time/week) of white meat
and for white meat intake among subjects who consumed low levels
of (0-<1 time/week) of red meat. The associations remained evident
after further categorization of the red meat (relative to no red meat
intake): relative risk (RR) for >0-<1 time/week = 1.38, 95 percent
CI 0.86-2.20; RR for 1-4 times/week = 1.77, 95 percent CI 1.05-
2.99; and RR for >4 times/week = 1.98, 95 percent CI 1.0-3.89
and white meat (relative to no white meat intake): RR for >0-<1
time/week = 1.55, 95 percent CI 0.97-2.50; RR for 1-4 times/
week = 3.37, 95 percent CI 1.60-7.11; and RR for >4 times/week
= 2.74, 95 percent CI 0.37-20.19 variables to higher intake levels.
...'
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/148/8/761.pdf |
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Rudy Canoza
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: Re: Meat is a prominent part of chimpanzee diet; pre-human h |
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pearl wrote:
| Quote: | "Harry" <HarryManhole@gman.net> wrote in message news:47cc8243$0$26068$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
Rudy Canoza <pipes@thedismalscience.not> wrote in
news:13sot9grnd4thde@corp.supernews.com:
ferrous@paris.com wrote:
When asking for your exact thesis you present:
'Theories of Human Evolutionary Trends in Meat Eating
and Studies of Primate Intestinal Tracts'
Which fully takes into consideration but one small slice of the full
thesis as you were requested.
"With the above conditions of scholarship in mind, what is your exact
thesis about human evolution, development of meat tool handling
technology, interaction of humans with geography and changing food
resources as they spread worldwide into all environments, and changing
dietary behaviors?"
What was left out?
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A scientifically testable thesis. You don't have one,
so naturally there was none in any of your posts.
| Quote: | More important, it is not your thesis and
not one original word from you is presented.
You were given a paper
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That you haven't read, and that you are *INCOMPETENT*
to read. It was just more ultra-selective cherry
picking - invalid.
| Quote: | Not to be ignored is that
the paper has no problem including meat dietary sources and behaviors in
its views.
It's always been accepted that meat was sometimes eaten.
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Meat has been eaten at all times and places by humans,
*and* by their hominid predecessors for 2.5 million years.
| Quote: | It fits well within the concensus of accepted ideas on the
question of meat in the diet and provides a good example of how the
details not the central idea that meat *was* not involved are at issue.
'Theories of hominid evolution have postulated that switching to
[ SNIP ]
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You didn't read that paper, and it DOES NOT REFUTE the
central point: that meat has been a staple feature of
human diet for all of the existence of homo sapiens
sapiens (about 250,000 years), as well as of our
hominid predecessor species for 2.25 million years
before that - a total of 2.5 million years of hominid
and human meat eating.
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We await your thesis in your words on the other 90 percent of that
requested of you.
You'll wait in vain. She won't state any
scientifically credible or testable thesis. She
*can't* - she doesn't know science at all.
Vegetariism is great if you like chronic diarhea.
... of the verbal kind,
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That's all you do. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: Re: Meat is a prominent part of chimpanzee diet; pre-human h |
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Not acceptable, you were not asked to support nor explain nor comment
upon the abstract you posted.
You were asked in your words to advance your thesis about human
evolution, the role of meat tool technology, the interaction with
environment and changing food resources the world over and changing
dietary behaviors and human adaptation to same.
No evidence was requested, just your thesis. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: Why Vegan Instead of Just Vegetarian?? |
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Goo wrote:
| Quote: | Coming into existence is not a "benefit", Goo. It
cannot be.
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How do you think that could prevent all livestock
from benefitting from lives of positive value, Goo, do
you have any clue? |
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run_a_monk
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Meat is a prominent part of chimpanzee diet; pre-human h |
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| Quote: | pearl wrote:
Flame on. liar. I've wasted too much time on you already.
Rudy Canoza wrote:
Ha ha ha ha ha! This is at *LEAST* the 20th time
you've said you've wasted too much time on me! But
you'll be back - you can't help yourself. You have no
self control.
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*sigh* Here is the evidence of his pleasure in creating an emotional
rise, gaining attention, and disturbing the flow of rational
discourse.
Ignore the troll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll |
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Rudy Canoza
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Why Vegan Instead of Just Vegetarian?? |
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Goo - Fuckwit David Harrison, THE Goober of all Goobers
- lied and presented no challenge:
| Quote: | On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Rudy A. Canoza wrote:
Coming into existence is not a "benefit", Goo. It
cannot be.
How do you think that could prevent all livestock
from benefitting from lives of positive value
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Coming into existence is not a "benefit", Goo. You've
been saying it is for nine years, and you're wrong.
You have no reason left to be here. |
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