|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
flanier
Guest
|
 Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: Common Knowledge |
 |
|
The National Intelligence Estimate indicated that Iran had
discontinued its nuclear program and took the wind out of the sails of
those hawks who were urging action .
Bush/Cheney continue to argue, as far as I know, that Iran is a grave
threat and, would, if there were sufficient support, put the bad on
that nation.
Now comes Charles Krauthammer who tells us that the intelligence
community had siezed control, with a successful coup, of the Bush
policy by ''misleadingly trumpeting that Iran had halted'' [it's
program].
Krauthammer insists that Iran continues to enrich uranium using 3000
centrifuges and once they have the fuel ,it would only be a matter of
months before they could put together a bomb. It is somewhat
problematic to understand, if the preceeding is correct, why the
Russians would give Iran, as was reported, nuclear fuel since,
according to Krauthammer, the Iranians are well on their way to
producing their own.
Given the Bush/Cheney truth record it becomes very difficult for the
average person, who is engaged full time in earning their daily bread,
to make informed decisions as to what is the correct scenerio. I'm
not even sure what's going on in Iraq...and sure as God made little
green apples, I have no intention of going there on vacation to find
out! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Google
Sponsor
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: Advertisement |
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
COL. BILL KILGORE
Guest
|
| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"flanier" <bflanier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7da6adbd-8749-43fd-8eea-5c695d788cfd@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | The National Intelligence Estimate indicated that Iran had
discontinued its nuclear program and took the wind out of the sails of
those hawks who were urging action .
Bush/Cheney continue to argue, as far as I know, that Iran is a grave
threat and, would, if there were sufficient support, put the bad on
that nation.
Now comes Charles Krauthammer who tells us that the intelligence
community had siezed control, with a successful coup, of the Bush
policy by ''misleadingly trumpeting that Iran had halted'' [it's
program].
Krauthammer insists that Iran continues to enrich uranium using 3000
centrifuges and once they have the fuel ,it would only be a matter of
months before they could put together a bomb. It is somewhat
problematic to understand, if the preceeding is correct, why the
Russians would give Iran, as was reported, nuclear fuel since,
according to Krauthammer, the Iranians are well on their way to
producing their own.
Given the Bush/Cheney truth record it becomes very difficult for the
average person, who is engaged full time in earning their daily bread,
to make informed decisions as to what is the correct scenerio. I'm
not even sure what's going on in Iraq...and sure as God made little
green apples, I have no intention of going there on vacation to find
out!
|
Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as flanier); but
suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's telling
them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
"Cliff told me I reminded him of a runway model; then he mumbled something
about the runway being able to hold a 747". ~Maddi |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
COL. BILL KILGORE
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"Clave" <claviusnospamdammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:fkid14$7l7$1@registered.motzarella.org...
| Quote: | "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkhb5m$k8e$1@registered.motzarella.org...
...
Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as flanier);
but suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's
telling them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
Lemme put it into as few syllables as a Pusscake needs: If the
"intelligence" wasn't reliable enough to start a war then, it's not
reliable enough to start a war now.
|
Combining the words "intelligence" and "Clave" in any one sentence or phrase
is an oxymoron, to say the least.
| Quote: |
How can you continue to embarrass yourself this way day after day?
|
Says the poster who ran with the Jason Leopold story like a 5-yr old with a
new toy. Talk about embarassment. We're still waiting for you to own-up on
that one. But, being the coward that you are, breath is not being held.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Clave
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkhb5m$k8e$1@registered.motzarella.org...
<...>
| Quote: | Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as flanier);
but suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's
telling them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
|
Lemme put it into as few syllables as a Pusscake needs: If the
"intelligence" wasn't reliable enough to start a war then, it's not reliable
enough to start a war now.
How can you continue to embarrass yourself this way day after day?
Jim |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
flanier
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
On Dec 21, 7:21 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | ... But, being the coward that you are, breath is not being held.
|
Awwww c'mon, hold your breath! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
flanier
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
On Dec 21, 2:28 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as flanier); but
suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's telling
them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
|
Yah, that's what I said!.
kilgore, why don't you try to be sober when you reply to posts? Your
posts will have much more gravitas!
"I believe....I believe....I believe I'll have another beer!" `the
kilgore |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
flanier wrote:
| Quote: | On Dec 21, 2:28�pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as flanier); but
suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's telling
them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
Yah, that's what I said!.
|
What's funny about the neo-con line of reasoning being repeatedly
floated by the likes of the fictionaly Colonel is that it is based on
the presumption that intelligence resources do not learn from past
mistakes (i.e. allowing themselves to be guided into cherry-picking
their own data to produce the reports Dick Cheney told them to, in
exchange for a future medal of freedom for then CIA Director Tenet).
This line of resoning would require us to assume NASA Engineers would
pay no more heed to risk statements on Space Shuttle O-Rings after the
Challenger disaster of 1986.
What complete bafoons these shills make themselves to be.
Rational people realize that our intelligence agencies simply decided
that they no longer wished to wear the coat of egg on their face that
their passive support for the Tenet/Cheney/Bush misinformation
campaign of 2003 gave them
| Quote: |
kilgore, why don't you try to be sober when you reply to posts? Your
posts will have much more gravitas!
"I believe....I believe....I believe I'll have another beer!" `the
kilgore |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
COL. BILL KILGORE
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"flanier" <bflanier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1aa864e5-ad18-4446-8931-2e0714af3376@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 21, 2:28 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as flanier);
but
suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's telling
them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
|
Yah, that's what I said!.
No it isn't. Your post is an obvious slap at the Bush administration and
nothing more. The question put to you was a simple one. Why was the intel
"wrong" on Iraq and correct on "Iran"? Why are you such a bald-faced liar? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Clave
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkjv45$bo4$1@registered.motzarella.org...
| Quote: |
"flanier" <bflanier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1aa864e5-ad18-4446-8931-2e0714af3376@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 21, 2:28 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as flanier);
but
suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's telling
them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
Yah, that's what I said!.
No it isn't. Your post is an obvious slap at the Bush administration and
nothing more. The question put to you was a simple one. Why was the
intel "wrong" on Iraq and correct on "Iran"? Why are you such a
bald-faced liar?
|
I answered that question, and The Pusscake couldn't handle it.
Jim |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Clave
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkja2p$brq$1@registered.motzarella.org...
| Quote: |
"Clave" <claviusnospamdammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:fkid14$7l7$1@registered.motzarella.org...
"COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkhb5m$k8e$1@registered.motzarella.org...
...
Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as flanier);
but suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's
telling them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
Lemme put it into as few syllables as a Pusscake needs: If the
"intelligence" wasn't reliable enough to start a war then, it's not
reliable enough to start a war now.
Combining the words "intelligence" and "Clave" in any one sentence or
phrase is an oxymoron, to say the least.
|
The word "Clave" isn't in that sentence, you fucking idiot, and you can't
handle what is.
Jim |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
COL. BILL KILGORE
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:B9ydnep2yPkiGfDanZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@cablespeedwa.com...
| Quote: | "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkjv45$bo4$1@registered.motzarella.org...
"flanier" <bflanier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1aa864e5-ad18-4446-8931-2e0714af3376@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 21, 2:28 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as flanier);
but
suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's telling
them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
Yah, that's what I said!.
No it isn't. Your post is an obvious slap at the Bush administration and
nothing more. The question put to you was a simple one. Why was the
intel "wrong" on Iraq and correct on "Iran"? Why are you such a
bald-faced liar?
I answered that question, and The Pusscake couldn't handle it.
Jim
|
You answered zilch, as per usual; you re-established yourself as ARTD-L's
resident "gasbag with an ego", as expected. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
flanier
Guest
|
| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
On Dec 22, 2:21 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote
replying to my post: "Yah, that's what I said!."
kilgore, your problems with the language are a matter of little
concern to me.
Is there any chance you can engage in intelligent discussions with
anyone? I've seen no such exhibits from you since you've joined this
melee.
Cut down on the booze, will ya! That fortified nog will kill even more
brain cells...and God knows...you need every single one that can be
salvaged.
Merry Christmas. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Clave
Guest
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkk7mj$fnu$1@registered.motzarella.org...
| Quote: |
"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:B9ydnep2yPkiGfDanZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@cablespeedwa.com...
"COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkjv45$bo4$1@registered.motzarella.org...
"flanier" <bflanier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1aa864e5-ad18-4446-8931-2e0714af3376@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 21, 2:28 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other
nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as
flanier); but
suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's
telling
them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
Yah, that's what I said!.
No it isn't. Your post is an obvious slap at the Bush administration
and nothing more. The question put to you was a simple one. Why was
the intel "wrong" on Iraq and correct on "Iran"? Why are you such a
bald-faced liar?
I answered that question, and The Pusscake couldn't handle it.
You answered zilch, as per usual; you re-established yourself as ARTD-L's
resident "gasbag with an ego", as expected.
|
Once more for the alzheimer's-impaired Pusscake:
Lemme put it into as few syllables as a Pusscake needs: If the
"intelligence" wasn't reliable enough to start a war then, it's
not reliable enough to start a war now.
How can you continue to embarrass yourself this way day after day?
Jim |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Clave
Guest
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:34 am Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"flanier" <bflanier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e3ed70a3-25ed-4c18-b50e-a01ee8fa9588@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 22, 2:21 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote
replying to my post: "Yah, that's what I said!."
kilgore, your problems with the language are a matter of little
concern to me.
Is there any chance you can engage in intelligent discussions with
anyone?
=============================
None. Zero. Don't even ask.
HTH,
Jim |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
COL. BILL KILGORE
Guest
|
| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:54 am Post subject: Re: Common Knowledge |
|
|
"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:WqidnTyOt4lKJ_DanZ2dnUVZ_qqgnZ2d@cablespeedwa.com...
| Quote: | "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkk7mj$fnu$1@registered.motzarella.org...
"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
news:B9ydnep2yPkiGfDanZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@cablespeedwa.com...
"COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilgore@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fkjv45$bo4$1@registered.motzarella.org...
"flanier" <bflanier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1aa864e5-ad18-4446-8931-2e0714af3376@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 21, 2:28 pm, "COL. BILL KILGORE" <w_s_kilg...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Funny how the NIE and the intelligence agencies of several other
nations
were all "100% wrong" about Iraq in the eyes of the left-wing and the
like-thinking kooks that populate this and other NG's (such as
flanier); but
suddenly have 100% credibility to those same people because it's
telling
them something they "want" to hear about Iran.
Yah, that's what I said!.
No it isn't. Your post is an obvious slap at the Bush administration
and nothing more. The question put to you was a simple one. Why was
the intel "wrong" on Iraq and correct on "Iran"? Why are you such a
bald-faced liar?
I answered that question, and The Pusscake couldn't handle it.
You answered zilch, as per usual; you re-established yourself as ARTD-L's
resident "gasbag with an ego", as expected.
Once more for the alzheimer's-impaired Pusscake:
Lemme put it into as few syllables as a Pusscake needs: If the
"intelligence" wasn't reliable enough to start a war then, it's
not reliable enough to start a war now.
|
It's not an "answer"; it's an "opinion", and the opinion of a left-wing kook
like you is hardly noteworthy.
| Quote: |
How can you continue to embarrass yourself this way day after day?
|
"Embarassment" is picking up on a unsubstantiated news story on a nut blog
and then posting it to Usenet groups as gospel and making bogus predictions
about the "imminent" indictment of a top government official. The
embarassment you brought on yourself was amplified by your cowardly
reluctance to own-up to your blunder. You spend so much time and effort
trying to point out mistakes made by other posters that you are unable to
deal with the multiple gaffes you lay on us almost daily. Asshole.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
|
