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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Fuck my little cunt RepubliKKKan daddy |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:29:42 +0430, "Vendicar Decarian"
<BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote:
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"Vendicar Decarian" <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote:
But you choose to see the request coming from a child. Which tells us
something about your KKKonservative Bias on many subjects.
"Zeligg" <zeligg@guessagain.com> wrote
No wonder you have such a problem with usenet, you don't even read
your own posts. In this case, according to this, which you wrote in
the first post of this thread, the girls in question are younger than
16:
Yes, The RepubliKKKan child molester was forcing his underage adopted
daughter to suck his cock.
Do you have a problem with the news being reported?
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Not at all, I have a problem with you writing child porn. I've said
this several times; even if you can't read, you don't know any adults
who could read these posts to you?
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"Republican Ted A. Klaudt surrendered at the Corson County Sheriff's
office. He did not enter a plea during two court appearances, and bond was
set
at $100,000. He was taken to jail and declined to comment as he left the
courtroom.
The charges against him include eight counts of second-degree rape, two
counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, one count of sexual contact with a
child younger than 16, two counts of witness tampering and one count of
stalking. Some of the rape charges carry penalties of up to 50 years in
prison.
"Zeligg" <zeligg@guessagain.com> wrote
Funny that you just said nothing you wrote indicated these were
children.
No, I said there was nothing in the title of this thread that indicates
that the person asking their RepubliKKKan daddy to fuck them up the ass, is
in fact a child.
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Caught in another lie. You did not specify that you were only talking
about the subject line. You said "nothing you wrote":
On Wed, 30 May 2007 05:48:37 +0430, "Vendicar Decarian"
<BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote:
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"Zeligg" <zeligg@guessagain.com> wrote
How amusing it is that you attaack anyone about child porn when you
are so happy writing it yourself.
Nothing I wrote states the age of the girl asking to be fucked by her
RepubliKKKan daddy. She could be any age.
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What we do know is that....
"Republican Ted A. Klaudt surrendered at the Corson County Sheriff's
office. He did not enter a plea during two court appearances, and bond was
set
at $100,000. He was taken to jail and declined to comment as he left the
courtroom.
The charges against him include eight counts of second-degree rape, two
counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, one count of sexual contact with a
child younger than 16, two counts of witness tampering and one count of
stalking. Some of the rape charges carry penalties of up to 50 years in
prison.
"Zeligg" <zeligg@guessagain.com> wrote
I thought this was about a girl who could be any age?
The title of course.
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So the entire article is about a child molester, but when you wrote
the subject line, you were talking about someone who is of age? Dude,
you're scrambling to make excuses and cover up your lies, which only
shows that you know you fucked up. Why not just act like a man and
admit it, and then we can all drive on.
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"Zeligg" <zeligg@guessagain.com> wrote
Caught in a lie by your own failed and miserable attempts at debating.
Sorry, your assumption of the age of the girl in the title is underage is
not supported by any fact, and in fact is evidence of your own personal
interests in such cases.
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I didn't assume anything. You flat out said it. Now you're lying
about that, as I've already proved above.
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"Zeligg" <zeligg@guessagain.com> wrote
Was "Fuck my little cunt" part of the article?
No, It's the title of the thread.
Don't you know the difference?
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I'm using your own words against you. Don't YOU know the difference?
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Ahahahahahahah... Fool.
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Ah, you're just one more child pornographer troll put in his place by
Zeligg; but if you want to feel like you were beaten by a fool, feel
free.
Zeligg
"You are megalomaniac, the worst kind, because you're a monstrous and
perverted idiot."
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: How many electricity generating windmills <--- 1 FAILED |
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What Me Worry? wrote:
| Quote: | geneccc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180622204.211987.84690@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On May 30, 2:55 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
"Mike Flannigan" <mflanni...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Zz37i.7909$dy1.7878@bigfe9...
"The Cunning Linguist" <thinh...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"Coffee in Madrid" <gde...@THISeastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:gdeppe-821E16.19594729052007@news.telus.net...
In article <QfCdnSDpXKhQNMHbnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@insightbb.com>,
"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
gene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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How many windmills could have been built if Bush hadn't pissed the
money away winning the hearts and minds of everyday Muslims in the
Middle East?
Bush, the Failed Businessman.
Bush, the Failed President.
The answer is "enough wind generators to make oil wars obsolete."
So far, the illegal occupation of Iraq has cost the US an estimated
$1,000,000,000,000 (one TRILLION dollars)
Wind generators cost ~$1,400,000 per 1 megawatt capacity.
How many megawatts could $1,000,000,000,000 buy?
Are you ready?
~700,000 megawatts (700 gigawatts) of electricity.
That's enough to power 350,000,000 homes!
That's equivalent to 1,000 nuclear plants (at 60% of the cost).
It is clean, renewable energy, requiring *no fuel inputs* and
producing
*no
toxic waste* in operation, so we would get huge amounts of carbon
credits
for building and using wind generators, a cleaner environment, etc.
Most coal-burning plants could be shut down, greatly reducing air
and
water
pollution.
And, of course, don't forget that *AMERICANS* could be building,
installing
and maintaining those wind generators, instead of killing a
*million*
Iraqis
and ruining our own economy and international reputation in the
process.
If the *$1 TRILLION TAX DOLLARS* had been used to build wind
generators
instead of killng babies in Iraq, you could get free electricity.
You
already paid for the generators (with your tax dollars), and they
require no
fuel to operate, so you would reap the rewards every day.
So, here's your choice: Free electricity vs. 1 million dead Iraqis
(and
counting).
The military-oil complex is destroying America, plain and simple.
Excellent observation.
We are already 8 years behind, due to Republikants whoring the
planet.
Hmmmm! How do you explain LIEberal Ted Kennedy actively fighting the
creation of a large wind mill farm.
Damn, stole my thunder..
Question: How many windmills could have been built if Bush hadn't
pissed
the money away winning the hearts and minds of everyday Muslims in the
Middle East?
Answer: None, if it's in Teddy's backyard!
Yeah, boy, that's hilarious Mikey. I suppose every Republican senator
would
*love* to have 180-ft-diameter wind turbines in their backyard, right
Mikey?
Oh. That kinda ruins your little joke, doesn't it?
snicker>- Hide quoted text -
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Would a war widow choose a windmill in her backyard if it could bring
her loved one back?
That, my friend, is compelling rhetoric.
Would there be 40,000 new al Queda terrorists if we had spent $1 TRILLON on
wind power "over here" instead of providing them with 130,000 young American
training targets "over there?"
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I've wondered why, in the past, some company didn't do an IPO on
windmills and windfarms. I should think they'd generate a billion
dollars in the first day of sales. Be another google. |
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What Me Worry?
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: How many electricity generating windmills <--- 1 FAILED |
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"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | What Me Worry? wrote:
geneccc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180622204.211987.84690@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On May 30, 2:55 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
"Mike Flannigan" <mflanni...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Zz37i.7909$dy1.7878@bigfe9...
"The Cunning Linguist" <thinh...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"Coffee in Madrid" <gde...@THISeastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:gdeppe-821E16.19594729052007@news.telus.net...
In article <QfCdnSDpXKhQNMHbnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@insightbb.com>,
"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
gene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180466202.615922.158860@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
How many windmills could have been built if Bush hadn't pissed the
money away winning the hearts and minds of everyday Muslims in the
Middle East?
Bush, the Failed Businessman.
Bush, the Failed President.
The answer is "enough wind generators to make oil wars obsolete."
So far, the illegal occupation of Iraq has cost the US an estimated
$1,000,000,000,000 (one TRILLION dollars)
Wind generators cost ~$1,400,000 per 1 megawatt capacity.
How many megawatts could $1,000,000,000,000 buy?
Are you ready?
~700,000 megawatts (700 gigawatts) of electricity.
That's enough to power 350,000,000 homes!
That's equivalent to 1,000 nuclear plants (at 60% of the cost).
It is clean, renewable energy, requiring *no fuel inputs* and
producing
*no
toxic waste* in operation, so we would get huge amounts of carbon
credits
for building and using wind generators, a cleaner environment, etc.
Most coal-burning plants could be shut down, greatly reducing air
and
water
pollution.
And, of course, don't forget that *AMERICANS* could be building,
installing
and maintaining those wind generators, instead of killing a
*million*
Iraqis
and ruining our own economy and international reputation in the
process.
If the *$1 TRILLION TAX DOLLARS* had been used to build wind
generators
instead of killng babies in Iraq, you could get free electricity.
You
already paid for the generators (with your tax dollars), and they
require no
fuel to operate, so you would reap the rewards every day.
So, here's your choice: Free electricity vs. 1 million dead Iraqis
(and
counting).
The military-oil complex is destroying America, plain and simple.
Excellent observation.
We are already 8 years behind, due to Republikants whoring the
planet.
Hmmmm! How do you explain LIEberal Ted Kennedy actively fighting the
creation of a large wind mill farm.
Damn, stole my thunder..
Question: How many windmills could have been built if Bush hadn't
pissed
the money away winning the hearts and minds of everyday Muslims in the
Middle East?
Answer: None, if it's in Teddy's backyard!
Yeah, boy, that's hilarious Mikey. I suppose every Republican senator
would
*love* to have 180-ft-diameter wind turbines in their backyard, right
Mikey?
Oh. That kinda ruins your little joke, doesn't it?
snicker>- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Would a war widow choose a windmill in her backyard if it could bring
her loved one back?
That, my friend, is compelling rhetoric.
Would there be 40,000 new al Queda terrorists if we had spent $1 TRILLON
on wind power "over here" instead of providing them with 130,000 young
American training targets "over there?"
I've wondered why, in the past, some company didn't do an IPO on windmills
and windfarms. I should think they'd generate a billion dollars in the
first day of sales. Be another google.
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Agreed; but unlike Google, there isn't a non-stop barrage of media coverage
hyping the benefits of wind power. Quite the opposite: Until recently, it
was kept very quiet, and even openly dismissed as a "tree hugger" technology
that "kills birds" and is "unsightly."
Do you think large energy companies want people to know how profitable wind
energy is? Notice who is investing in renewables. |
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: HEY RIGHTARDS? WHAT PRECEDES AN ICE AGE? |
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In article <1180544633.899204.163130@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
not4udude@yahoo.com says...
| Quote: | GLOBAL WARMING YOU MORONS! LOOK IT UP! you beleive Jesus walk on water
but you don't beleive in scientific fact. The scientist who say global
warming is a hoax get paid off by company companies. You know? The
ones who are fucking up the environment! COME ON IDIOTS, TRY A LITTLE
REALITY FOR A CHANGE. WEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The irony of this guy calling people morons, idiots and rightards is
spectacular. The people skeptical of global warming are skeptical of
"man made" global warming because as you so eloquently point out, global
warming has happened naturally many times in the past. There are other
reasons to be skeptical (like the fact that the evidence no longer
supports CO2 as a significant warming cause) but I'll try not to
overwhelm you with too much info in one post.
John Black
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Zeligg
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: Derky's Been A Bad Boy! |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:36:28 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
<tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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Zeligg wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2007 22:28:16 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )"
tributyltinpaint@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Rick wrote:
Zeligg wrote in message ...
I'm reading it fine. How bout you quit snow-balling and just answer
the question. If you find the page is biased, you must have some idea
why you think that. I can read the article a million times but it's
still not going to explain to me why you are reading it wrong.
You are a complete and total idiot. There's not one hint that the author has
any doubt whatsoever that it actually is Deryk's page. Anyone with a brain
knows that it is not only possible, but easy to create a page in someone
else's name.
Aren't there two pictures of guys putting handguns in their mouths?
Someone posted a link to that. Is one of them Derky?
The assumption would be that even if it's not his page, Derky probably
posed for the picture. Although perhaps it was a fake job done by the
same guy who created the "fake" dirty dozen.
I don't know what Derky looks like so I'm just asking if one of those
imbeciles with the handgun in his mouth is (in your opinion) Derky.
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It definitely looks like him. My opinion is that it's him.
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Of course, just because he posed for the pic doesn't necessarily mean
that he created a page with child porn and all the other crap he's
being investigated for but it is more fodder for the masses.
Posing for a picture like that makes it clear he doesn't follow safe
firearms rules. And where would the person who put up the page get that
picture if it wasn't Derky who but the page up? Oh, and does he call
himself "Derky"?
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I don't think he does. That name may have been created by our own Sr.
Rojo.
Zeligg
"You are megalomaniac, the worst kind, because you're a monstrous and
perverted idiot."
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Zeligg
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Derky's Been A Bad Boy! |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:34:44 -0500, "Rick"
<pl1_alpha_geek@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Zeligg wrote in message ...
On Tue, 29 May 2007 18:07:37 -0500, "Rick"
pl1_alpha_geek@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
[snip]
By kicking your sorry noob ass.
Soryy, but that's your own ass you're kicking. That's how hard your knee is
jerking.
- Rick
So I'll assume that you're unable to post whatever it is in the |
article that has convinced you it's a smear job.
Zeligg
"You are megalomaniac, the worst kind, because you're a monstrous and
perverted idiot."
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John Black
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: HEY RIGHT WING GENIUSES! WHAT PRECEDES A ICE AGE? |
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In article <1180544413.243860.123210@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
not4udude@yahoo.com says...
| Quote: | GLOBAL WARMING YOU MORONS! LOOK IT UP! you beleive Jesus walk on water
but you don't beleive in scientific fact. The scientist who say global
warming is a hoax get paid off by company companies. You know? The
ones who are fucking up the environment! COME ON IDIOTS, TRY A LITTLE
REALITY FOR A CHANGE. WEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The irony of this guy calling people morons, idiots and rightards is
spectacular. The people skeptical of global warming are skeptical of
"man made" global warming because as you so eloquently point out, global
warming has happened naturally many times in the past. There are other
reasons to be skeptical (like the fact that the evidence no longer
supports CO2 as a significant warming cause) but I'll try not to
overwhelm you with too much info in one post.
John Black
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Zeligg
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Was Deryk Expelled? |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 23:09:51 -0400, Otis <otis11@rocketmail.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | mmsvva@nova.com wrote:
snipped a bunch of stuff...
Otis "Would Rather be in Philadelphia" Beaufort
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Otis! Great to see (read) you again!
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[1] This nickname was first started by Neutrodyne. One of the greatest
posters ever to find USENET.
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I thought it was Sr Rojo; Man, I miss Neut!
| Quote: | [2] I'm an avid motorcyclist. Had an afternoon off. Never been to that
part of the State before. Decided to take a ride. Accuse me of
stalking if you must but I was really just curious and need to stretch
my legs.
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Sweet! Just bought my first bike a couple of months ago; I wound up
getting a 2003 Triumph Sprint ST. It's an awesome bike, and very cool
in that you only see a few Triumphs at all in the states. It's always
a great showpiece at the bike shows. What're you riding these days?
| Quote: | [3] The bartender and two beer jockeys holding the bar rail up.
[4] Awesome BLT by the way.
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Talk at ya later!
Zeligg
"You are megalomaniac, the worst kind, because you're a monstrous and
perverted idiot."
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The Cunning Linguist
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: How many electricity generating windmills <--- 1 FAILED |
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"salad" <oil@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | What Me Worry? wrote:
geneccc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180622204.211987.84690@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On May 30, 2:55 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
"Mike Flannigan" <mflanni...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Zz37i.7909$dy1.7878@bigfe9...
"The Cunning Linguist" <thinh...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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"Coffee in Madrid" <gde...@THISeastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:gdeppe-821E16.19594729052007@news.telus.net...
In article <QfCdnSDpXKhQNMHbnZ2dnUVZ_iydn...@insightbb.com>,
"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
gene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180466202.615922.158860@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
How many windmills could have been built if Bush hadn't pissed the
money away winning the hearts and minds of everyday Muslims in the
Middle East?
Bush, the Failed Businessman.
Bush, the Failed President.
The answer is "enough wind generators to make oil wars obsolete."
So far, the illegal occupation of Iraq has cost the US an estimated
$1,000,000,000,000 (one TRILLION dollars)
Wind generators cost ~$1,400,000 per 1 megawatt capacity.
How many megawatts could $1,000,000,000,000 buy?
Are you ready?
~700,000 megawatts (700 gigawatts) of electricity.
That's enough to power 350,000,000 homes!
That's equivalent to 1,000 nuclear plants (at 60% of the cost).
It is clean, renewable energy, requiring *no fuel inputs* and
producing
*no
toxic waste* in operation, so we would get huge amounts of carbon
credits
for building and using wind generators, a cleaner environment, etc.
Most coal-burning plants could be shut down, greatly reducing air
and
water
pollution.
And, of course, don't forget that *AMERICANS* could be building,
installing
and maintaining those wind generators, instead of killing a
*million*
Iraqis
and ruining our own economy and international reputation in the
process.
If the *$1 TRILLION TAX DOLLARS* had been used to build wind
generators
instead of killng babies in Iraq, you could get free electricity.
You
already paid for the generators (with your tax dollars), and they
require no
fuel to operate, so you would reap the rewards every day.
So, here's your choice: Free electricity vs. 1 million dead Iraqis
(and
counting).
The military-oil complex is destroying America, plain and simple.
Excellent observation.
We are already 8 years behind, due to Republikants whoring the
planet.
Hmmmm! How do you explain LIEberal Ted Kennedy actively fighting the
creation of a large wind mill farm.
Damn, stole my thunder..
Question: How many windmills could have been built if Bush hadn't
pissed
the money away winning the hearts and minds of everyday Muslims in the
Middle East?
Answer: None, if it's in Teddy's backyard!
Yeah, boy, that's hilarious Mikey. I suppose every Republican senator
would
*love* to have 180-ft-diameter wind turbines in their backyard, right
Mikey?
Oh. That kinda ruins your little joke, doesn't it?
snicker>- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Would a war widow choose a windmill in her backyard if it could bring
her loved one back?
That, my friend, is compelling rhetoric.
Would there be 40,000 new al Queda terrorists if we had spent $1 TRILLON
on wind power "over here" instead of providing them with 130,000 young
American training targets "over there?"
I've wondered why, in the past, some company didn't do an IPO on windmills
and windfarms. I should think they'd generate a billion dollars in the
first day of sales. Be another google.
Windmills in Kennedy's backyard would be located about six miles out in the |
ocean, barely visible on a clear day. |
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Tom Sr.
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: SUMMER'S HERE!! - SOUTH AMERICANS FREEZING BUTTS OFF!! |
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On May 31, 6:25 am, purpurroterwald <pur...@negative.forest> wrote:
| Quote: | "Tom Sr." <tomswif...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why does it take you three dozen lines of text to say what could have
been communicated with a single word?
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(That word being: "Wrong")
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Because Mr. Ranger is so fucking stupid, I was trying to explain it to
him so he would clearly understand.
Also I like to write, and think a good post deserves more than a BTW
or WTF. I happen to like the English language, something many
American-born posters seem not to considering many of the posts to
Usenet.
And despite my best effort, he is so fucking stupid, he didn't get
it. It was not unexpected of Mr. Ranger and his sock-puppets.
-Tom Sr. |
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shrubkiller
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: MAGNIFICENT MILITARY HEROES RETURN TO ACTIVE DUTY EVEN A |
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On May 31, 4:11 am, Ole redneck <tnbrac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On May 31, 3:42 am, "theloneranger...@aol.com"
theloneranger...@aol.com> wrote:
Yup........The Magnificent Heroes of America's All-Volunteer Military
so believe in Service to their Country that they Return To Combat and
Service even AFTER they've undergone Amputations for Wounds Received
In Battle!.........These people are TERRIFIC!!............God Bless
these Valiant Heroes!..........
"May 30, 8:19 PM EDT
Amputee Soldiers Return to Active Duty
SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- In the blur of smoke and blood after a bomb blew
up under his Humvee in Iraq, Sgt. Tawan Williamson looked down at his
shredded leg and knew it couldn't be saved. His military career,
though, pulled through. Less than a year after the attack, Williamson
is running again with a high-tech prosthetic leg and plans to take up
a new assignment, probably by the fall, as an Army job counselor and
affirmative action officer in Okinawa, Japan.
In an about-face by the Pentagon, the military is putting many more
amputees back on active duty - even back into combat, in some cases.
Williamson, a 30-year-old Chicago native who is missing his left leg
below the knee and three toes on the other foot, acknowledged that
some will be skeptical of a maimed soldier back in uniform.
"But I let my job show for itself," he said. "At this point, I'm done
proving. I just get out there and do it."
Previously, a soldier who lost a limb almost automatically received a
quick discharge, a disability check and an appointment with the
Veterans Administration.
But since the start of the Iraq war, the military has begun holding on
to amputees, treating them in rehab programs like the one here at Fort
Sam Houston and promising to help them return to active duty if that
is what they want.
"The mindset of our Army has changed, to the extent that we realize
the importance of all our soldiers and what they can contribute to our
Army. Someone who loses a limb is still a very valuable asset," said
Lt. Col. Kevin Arata, a spokesman for the Army's Human Resources
Command at the Pentagon.
Also, just as advances in battlefield medicine have boosted survival
rates among the wounded, better prosthetics and treatment regimens
have improved amputees' ability to regain mobility.
So far, the Army has treated nearly 600 service members who have come
back from Iraq or Afghanistan without an arm, leg, hand or foot.
Thirty-one have gone back to active duty, and no one who asked to
remain in the service has been discharged, Arata said.
Most of those who return to active duty are assigned to instructor or
desk jobs away from combat. Only a few - the Army doesn't keep track
of exactly how many - have returned to the war zone, and only at their
insistence, Arata said.
To go back into the war zone, they have to prove they can do the job
without putting themselves or others at risk.
One amputee who returned to combat in Iraq, Maj. David Rozelle, is now
helping design the amputee program at Walter Reed Medical Center in
Washington. He has counted seven other amputees who have lost at least
part of a hand or foot and have gone back to combat in Iraq.
The 34-year-old from Austin, Texas, said he felt duty-bound to return
after losing his right foot to a land mine in Iraq.
"It sounds ridiculous, but you feel guilty that you're back home
safe," he said. "Our country is engaged in a war. I felt it was my
responsibility as a leader in the Army to continue."
Rozelle commanded a cavalry troop and conducted reconnaissance
operations when he returned to Iraq, just as he had before the mine
blast. Other amputees who have returned to combat, ranging from
infantry grunts to special forces soldiers, have conducted door-to-
door searches, convoy operations and other missions in the field.
"Guys won't go back if it means riding a desk," Rozelle said.
He said his emotions at the start of his second tour in Iraq, which
lasted four months, were a lot like those during his first stint: "I
was going back to war, so it was as heart-pounding as the first time."
Mark Heniser, who worked as a Navy therapist for 23 years before
joining the amputee program at Fort Sam Houston in 2005, said both the
military and the wounded benefit when amputees can be kept on active
duty: The military retains the skills of experienced personnel, while
the soldiers can continue with their careers.
Staff Sgt. Nathan Reed, who lost his right leg a year ago in a car
bombing, is 2 1/2 years from retirement and has orders to head in July
to Fort Knox, where he expects to be an instructor.
"My whole plan was to do 20 years," said the 37-year-old soldier from
Shreveport, La. "I had no doubt that I would be able to go back on
active duty."
Not everyone comes through treatment as rapidly or as well as
Williamson, Reed and Rozelle. Some have more severe injuries or
struggle harder with the losses, physically or emotionally. Soldiers
who lose a limb early in their careers are more likely to want out.
Those with long service are more motivated to stay, Heniser said.
Williamson did not want to return to combat, and it is not clear he
could have met the physical qualifications anyway.
The military planned to discharge him on disability, but he appealed,
hoping to become a drill instructor. The Army ruled that would be too
physically demanding for Williamson, a human resources officer before
being sent to lead convoys in Iraq, but it agreed to let him return to
active duty in some other capacity.
He is regaining his strength and balance at the new $50 million Center
for the Intrepid, built to rehabilitate military amputees. A hurdler
in high school, he ran the Army minimum of two miles for the first
time in mid-May, managing a 10-minute-per-mile pace on his C-shaped
prosthetic running leg decorated with blue flames.
He is working out five days a week - running, lifting weights and
doing pool exercises - and just got his first ride on a wave machine
used to improve balance.
"I could leave here today if they told me I had to," Williamson said."
What courage, god knows they could quit they have earned their check.
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Patriot Games wrote:
| Quote: | geneccc@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On May 30, 7:59 am, "Patriot Games" <Crazy_Bastard@The_Beach.com
wrote:
"What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in
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gene...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The answer is "enough wind generators to make oil wars obsolete."
So far, the illegal occupation of Iraq has cost the US an estimated
$1,000,000,000,000 (one TRILLION dollars)
Wind generators cost ~$1,400,000 per 1 megawatt capacity.
How many megawatts could $1,000,000,000,000 buy?
Are you ready?
~700,000 megawatts (700 gigawatts) of electricity.
That's enough to power 350,000,000 homes!
Where are you going to put all of those wind generators?
So, here's your choice: Free electricity vs. 1 million dead Iraqis
(and
counting).
Free? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
The military-oil complex is destroying America, plain and simple.
No, fools like you are destroying America.
I recommend you rent "Why We Fight" on video. It's an education that
will blow your mind.
Seen it. Better title would be Why We Lose.
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salad wrote:
| Quote: | What Me Worry? wrote:
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On May 30, 2:55 am, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote:
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How many windmills could have been built if Bush hadn't pissed the
money away winning the hearts and minds of everyday Muslims in the
Middle East?
Bush, the Failed Businessman.
Bush, the Failed President.
The answer is "enough wind generators to make oil wars obsolete."
So far, the illegal occupation of Iraq has cost the US an estimated
$1,000,000,000,000 (one TRILLION dollars)
Wind generators cost ~$1,400,000 per 1 megawatt capacity.
How many megawatts could $1,000,000,000,000 buy?
Are you ready?
~700,000 megawatts (700 gigawatts) of electricity.
That's enough to power 350,000,000 homes!
That's equivalent to 1,000 nuclear plants (at 60% of the cost).
It is clean, renewable energy, requiring *no fuel inputs* and
producing
*no
toxic waste* in operation, so we would get huge amounts of carbon
credits
for building and using wind generators, a cleaner environment, etc.
Most coal-burning plants could be shut down, greatly reducing air
and
water
pollution.
And, of course, don't forget that *AMERICANS* could be building,
installing
and maintaining those wind generators, instead of killing a
*million*
Iraqis
and ruining our own economy and international reputation in the
process.
If the *$1 TRILLION TAX DOLLARS* had been used to build wind
generators
instead of killng babies in Iraq, you could get free electricity.
You
already paid for the generators (with your tax dollars), and they
require no
fuel to operate, so you would reap the rewards every day.
So, here's your choice: Free electricity vs. 1 million dead Iraqis
(and
counting).
The military-oil complex is destroying America, plain and simple.
Excellent observation.
We are already 8 years behind, due to Republikants whoring the
planet.
Hmmmm! How do you explain LIEberal Ted Kennedy actively fighting the
creation of a large wind mill farm.
Damn, stole my thunder..
Question: How many windmills could have been built if Bush hadn't
pissed
the money away winning the hearts and minds of everyday Muslims in the
Middle East?
Answer: None, if it's in Teddy's backyard!
Yeah, boy, that's hilarious Mikey. I suppose every Republican senator
would
*love* to have 180-ft-diameter wind turbines in their backyard, right
Mikey?
Oh. That kinda ruins your little joke, doesn't it?
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Would a war widow choose a windmill in her backyard if it could bring
her loved one back?
That, my friend, is compelling rhetoric.
Would there be 40,000 new al Queda terrorists if we had spent $1 TRILLON on
wind power "over here" instead of providing them with 130,000 young American
training targets "over there?"
I've wondered why, in the past, some company didn't do an IPO on
windmills and windfarms. I should think they'd generate a billion
dollars in the first day of sales. Be another google.
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| Quote: | Yup........To the Older Generation, December 7, 1941 is "The Day that
will Live In Infamy"
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Actually, it's "a date which will live in infamy".
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