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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: confirmed: Halo 3 does *not* run in HD resolution. it's Reply with quote

Yo. I'm very impressed at the knowledge you all have about graphics.
Honestly. I've learned something from you all. But do we really need to get
so worked up about it calling each other names like 10 year olds? if the game
looks pretty, and you enjoyed playing it, whats the big deal really?

"Memnoch" wrote:

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On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:59:10 -0000, Doug Jacobs <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com
wrote:

In microsoft.public.xbox Memnoch <memnoch@nospampleaseimbritish.ntlworld.com> wrote:
I would guess they did it for speed reasons. If the game wasn't rendering at
an acceptable speed at 720p they should just come out and say it instead of
making excuses.

But...but...treknobabble always saved the day on Star Trek!

That would be great wouldn't it! The developers finally admit that due to the
limitations of 24th century technology they can only get the game to run
acceptably at 640p.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: "Xbox 2011" - predicting the NEXT generation Xbox Reply with quote

"Red Cloud" <mmdir2005@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 16, 7:41 am, "Tom" <no...@nothere.com> wrote:
elro...@pop.uky.edu> wrote in message

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On Nov 15, 4:03 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
* CPU/GPU - Integrated chip with 16 x 5GHz processor cores, 32 x 2GHz
graphics cores
* Memory - 8GB GDDR8
* Media - Dual-format HD-DVD/Blu-ray drive for backwards compatibility
and movies
* Storage - 4TB hard disk for online game (and movie) delivery
* Built-in camera - for gesture-based control
* Built-in microphone - for voice-recognised control

Oh, come on! These numbers are WAY over what the next Xbox will have.
Look at the jump from th Xbox1 to the 360. It was nowhere nearly this
great. The Xbox1 went from an 8GB hard drive to a 20GB harddrive (even
on the Premium edition) in five years (a 2.5x increase). And these
guys think it will jump from 20GB to a massive *4 TB* over the next
five (a 200x increase)!?!?!? The Xbox went from 64MB of memory on the
Xbox1 to 512 on the 360 (an 8x increase). But they expect a 16x
increase over the next five years?!?!?

And I expect a HD-DVD drive upgrade on the 360 *long* before 2011.
Developers are already pushing the limits of what a DVD can hold. If
they're still using a DVD drive in 2011, Sony will be mopping the
floor with them.

And any HD disc required for more space will also require tha that the
disc
drives (readers) also increase their read speeds. BR only reads at 2x and
many games have data replication to cover the discrepancy. I can't
imagine
playing a 20gig game @ 2x, the load times would put me to sleep. I
suspect
that by the time the next gen comes out, HD disc speed reads will be at
minimum, 8x.- Hide quoted text -

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You bet the 360 DVD reading speed make me sleep. What's like playing
20gig games? or 200Gig game. What's all the detailed graphic is
going to bring?
More fun? I don't think so.

The 360 reads 12x, and that is the norm for DL-DVDs. The load times for COD4
are seconds. But sooner or later games will get bigger in content and and
moreso in scope in the size of the games that they will require more than
the 9gigs a DL-DVD can hold.

And to answer your question, yes, having mor detailed graphics brings more
fun for me, because it makes the game more realistic.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: "Xbox 2011" - predicting the NEXT generation Xbox Reply with quote

<elrous0@pop.uky.edu> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Nov 15, 4:03 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
* CPU/GPU - Integrated chip with 16 x 5GHz processor cores, 32 x 2GHz
graphics cores
* Memory - 8GB GDDR8
* Media - Dual-format HD-DVD/Blu-ray drive for backwards compatibility
and movies
* Storage - 4TB hard disk for online game (and movie) delivery
* Built-in camera - for gesture-based control
* Built-in microphone - for voice-recognised control

Oh, come on! These numbers are WAY over what the next Xbox will have.
Look at the jump from th Xbox1 to the 360. It was nowhere nearly this
great. The Xbox1 went from an 8GB hard drive to a 20GB harddrive (even
on the Premium edition) in five years (a 2.5x increase). And these
guys think it will jump from 20GB to a massive *4 TB* over the next
five (a 200x increase)!?!?!? The Xbox went from 64MB of memory on the
Xbox1 to 512 on the 360 (an 8x increase). But they expect a 16x
increase over the next five years?!?!?

And I expect a HD-DVD drive upgrade on the 360 *long* before 2011.
Developers are already pushing the limits of what a DVD can hold. If
they're still using a DVD drive in 2011, Sony will be mopping the
floor with them.

MS already stated that the HD DVD drive was for movies only, not games!!!
MS is not going to split the Gaming community to those with HD DVD drives,
and those without. Doing that kind of thing on past consoles has never
worked. Many games on the Xbox didn't even use half of a DVD disc. Also a
lot of times the Sequel of a game with better graphics and just better all
around was smaller in size then the original game! Some reason you think a
game needs all this space when it doesn't. HD Games don't really take much
more disc space then a Regular game. A bit larger Textures sure, but with
new and better compression, that takes less space and loads up faster. Put
it this way, PC games that can be using Higher Resolutions then a HDTV
aren't on a Blu-Ray or HD DVD Disc! Your falling for Sony Propaganda. HD
video on the other hand requires a lot more space then SD video. I guess if
you want to fill up disc space with lots of HD Video Cut scenes in a game,
you would need space. I say who cares. The Japanese may like that garbage
but generally US gamers don't. I always skip right past it if at all
possible.

No Company is going to fill most of 25 gig Blu-Ray disc with game Code!
It's not cost effective. Games are expensive enough to produce, especially
the more Popular games. The AAA games. Millions to make a game. You
MIGHT see a couple exclusive games on the PS3 that actually make use of the
space. Maybe Final Fantasy XIII. Again, a Japanese game. The PS1 had
games on more then 1 CD! What was wrong with that? I have no problem if a
game later down the road needs 2 DVD's! That's about 18 Gigs of space right
there.

The Reason the PS3 has a Blu-Ray drive is to get Blu-Ray drives out there
for HD movies. That's where the real money is to be made. Far more then
from gamers! Sony said in the past that people would buy the PS3 even if
there wasn't any games to play on it. Well currently there still isn't
anything worth playing on the PS3 for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: "Xbox 2011" - predicting the NEXT generation Xbox Reply with quote

"Doug Jacobs" <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote in message
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In alt.games.video.xbox Tom <noway@nothere.com> wrote:

elrous0@pop.uky.edu> wrote in message
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On Nov 15, 4:03 pm, AirRaid <AirRaid...@gmail.com> wrote:
* CPU/GPU - Integrated chip with 16 x 5GHz processor cores, 32 x 2GHz
graphics cores

16 & 32 way processors? I really don't think so. Mutliple processors
with 8x cores, maybe, but

<snipped>

Why did you reply to me, that wasn't my post?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: "Xbox 2011" - predicting the NEXT generation Xbox Reply with quote

In article <gdfpj3ta7nik5d3b6itpcisg9v7str53p1@4ax.com>, Mitch@... wrote:
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Whatever it is, it will have some design oversight that causes massive
hardware failures in the first generation. Smile
Plus they are overlooking one fact, there are very few still in the USA that

can even get the type of high speed internet connection required to constantly
download Multiple gigabytes worth of games.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: ACE COMBAT 6 - full reviews Reply with quote

Nothing is better than that...

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In article <1193351640.081099.273840@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
jonahnynla@mindspring.com says...
On Oct 25, 6:31 pm, Bikini Whacks <www.l...@you.con> wrote:
In article <1193349020.593716.59...@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
AirRaid...@gmail.com says...



for those that don't like reading much

Gamespot: 8.5
Eurogamer: 8/10
Teamxbox: 8.8
IGN: 8.4

for those that like to read, 4 complete reviews below

45 second snip

How long have you booked off work then?

Will you be starting on simulation?

And will you be playing in a set of green overalls with skiing goggles
and a colander on your head with Take My Breath Away on a loop?

Better than your weekend which involves four inflatable dolls, a water
bed, and nine buckets of honey wings.


Exactly how could *anything* *be* better than that?
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