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Larry
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

Is this different under 2007 than under 97-2003? In my Word 97, I have a
set up I've had for years, in which there is a header in the normal
template. In any new document that I create, as soon as it has more than
one page, the second page automaticaly has a header.

Conflicts with labels are not a concern here, since the person who needs
this does not use that function.

So, is there anything about 2007 that prevents me from doing what I do with
97?




"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:O9g4TfoJIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Quote:
No you don't! The normal template should not have a header/footer as it
will
conflict with other functions eg labels. If you want documents with
header/footers, create a new document template and use that to create your
documents, or insert the header footers as required with macro/autotext
etc.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Larry wrote:
Doug thanks. I wasn't clear in my question. I want to set up the
Normal template so that each new Word document automatically has the
header.

Larry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
news:uu3K36jJIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Almost everything in Word 2007 works the same as in previous
versions - Finding the way to do it though can be a challenge

Create the header that you want to start on the second page on the
First page of the document, then on the Ribbon, select the Page
Layout tab and then click on the arrow at the right hand end of the
lower border of the Page Setup section of the Ribbon and then go to
the Layout tab of the Page Setup dialog and check the Different
First Page box and then click on OK.

The header that you had set up will then disappear, to reappear on
the second and subsequent pages of the document.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:uzIMpejJIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
A friend with Word 2007 wants to have each new document
automatically set up
so that it has a header starting at the second page. Years ago
Suzanne gave
me instructions on setting this up and I've used it ever since.
But the same approach doesn't seem to work for Word 2007.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

If you have Normal.dot set up with "Different first page" and content only
in the Header (not in the First Page Header), this would not pose *as much*
of a problem with labels, since you have to work at it to get more than one
sheet, and when you merge them, each sheet is a separate section (all page
1s, as it were).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:OAgJnYVKIHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Is this different under 2007 than under 97-2003? In my Word 97, I have a
set up I've had for years, in which there is a header in the normal
template. In any new document that I create, as soon as it has more than
one page, the second page automaticaly has a header.

Conflicts with labels are not a concern here, since the person who needs
this does not use that function.

So, is there anything about 2007 that prevents me from doing what I do
with
97?




"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:O9g4TfoJIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
No you don't! The normal template should not have a header/footer as it
will
conflict with other functions eg labels. If you want documents with
header/footers, create a new document template and use that to create
your
documents, or insert the header footers as required with macro/autotext
etc.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Larry wrote:
Doug thanks. I wasn't clear in my question. I want to set up the
Normal template so that each new Word document automatically has the
header.

Larry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
news:uu3K36jJIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Almost everything in Word 2007 works the same as in previous
versions - Finding the way to do it though can be a challenge

Create the header that you want to start on the second page on the
First page of the document, then on the Ribbon, select the Page
Layout tab and then click on the arrow at the right hand end of the
lower border of the Page Setup section of the Ribbon and then go to
the Layout tab of the Page Setup dialog and check the Different
First Page box and then click on OK.

The header that you had set up will then disappear, to reappear on
the second and subsequent pages of the document.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:uzIMpejJIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
A friend with Word 2007 wants to have each new document
automatically set up
so that it has a header starting at the second page. Years ago
Suzanne gave
me instructions on setting this up and I've used it ever since.
But the same approach doesn't seem to work for Word 2007.


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Daiya Mitchell
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

Just by the way--I recently tested this with MacWord, and despite hiding
the header in the second page--the first page of labels *and* the
envelope continued to be as screwed up as if I had put the header on
every page. WinWord may differ, of course--I offer this as a curiosity.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Quote:
If you have Normal.dot set up with "Different first page" and content only
in the Header (not in the First Page Header), this would not pose *as much*
of a problem with labels, since you have to work at it to get more than one
sheet, and when you merge them, each sheet is a separate section (all page
1s, as it were).

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

Well, the problem is that if you ever touch the header in Normal.dot (or any
template), you are left with an empty paragraph in the header, which one
would expect to interfere with labels, but when you use Word's built-in
label definitions, it uses its built-in magic to set the header/footer
margin to 0" and somehow suppress any error messages about being outside the
printable area, so I've always been curious about whether putting a header
in Normal.dot would *really* cause problems with labels (much less
envelopes). It's nice to have confirmation of what I was beginning to fear
was just superstition or an old wives' tale.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Daiya Mitchell" <daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID> wrote in message
news:Opo8WKXKIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Just by the way--I recently tested this with MacWord, and despite hiding
the header in the second page--the first page of labels *and* the
envelope continued to be as screwed up as if I had put the header on
every page. WinWord may differ, of course--I offer this as a curiosity.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
If you have Normal.dot set up with "Different first page" and content
only
in the Header (not in the First Page Header), this would not pose *as
much*
of a problem with labels, since you have to work at it to get more than
one
sheet, and when you merge them, each sheet is a separate section (all
page
1s, as it were).

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Daiya Mitchell
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

Yep, it definitely did. I tested it because I wasn't sure I wasn't just
repeating conventional wisdom either--and yeah, the header text showed
up under my return address, and the "single sheet of labels" pushed the
last row onto the second page.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Quote:
Well, the problem is that if you ever touch the header in Normal.dot (or any
template), you are left with an empty paragraph in the header, which one
would expect to interfere with labels, but when you use Word's built-in
label definitions, it uses its built-in magic to set the header/footer
margin to 0" and somehow suppress any error messages about being outside the
printable area, so I've always been curious about whether putting a header
in Normal.dot would *really* cause problems with labels (much less
envelopes). It's nice to have confirmation of what I was beginning to fear
was just superstition or an old wives' tale.

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Daiya Mitchell
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:46 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

Although, now doesn't Word 2007 refuse to use a customized Normal if you
right-click somewhere and create new document? It pulls the settings
from somewhere else? I wonder if Word 2007 is smart enough to use that
"somewhere else" for labels and envelopes too.

Daiya Mitchell wrote:
Quote:
Yep, it definitely did. I tested it because I wasn't sure I wasn't
just repeating conventional wisdom either--and yeah, the header text
showed up under my return address, and the "single sheet of labels"
pushed the last row onto the second page.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Well, the problem is that if you ever touch the header in Normal.dot
(or any
template), you are left with an empty paragraph in the header, which one
would expect to interfere with labels, but when you use Word's built-in
label definitions, it uses its built-in magic to set the header/footer
margin to 0" and somehow suppress any error messages about being
outside the
printable area, so I've always been curious about whether putting a
header
in Normal.dot would *really* cause problems with labels (much less
envelopes). It's nice to have confirmation of what I was beginning to
fear
was just superstition or an old wives' tale.

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Jay Freedman
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

No change -- Word 2007 behaves the same way, using Normal.dotm for the
label document and sticking in the header, even though it's the main
header rather than the first-page header and there is only one page.

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:46:44 -0500, Daiya Mitchell
<daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID> wrote:

Quote:
Although, now doesn't Word 2007 refuse to use a customized Normal if you
right-click somewhere and create new document? It pulls the settings
from somewhere else? I wonder if Word 2007 is smart enough to use that
"somewhere else" for labels and envelopes too.

Daiya Mitchell wrote:
Yep, it definitely did. I tested it because I wasn't sure I wasn't
just repeating conventional wisdom either--and yeah, the header text
showed up under my return address, and the "single sheet of labels"
pushed the last row onto the second page.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Well, the problem is that if you ever touch the header in Normal.dot
(or any
template), you are left with an empty paragraph in the header, which one
would expect to interfere with labels, but when you use Word's built-in
label definitions, it uses its built-in magic to set the header/footer
margin to 0" and somehow suppress any error messages about being
outside the
printable area, so I've always been curious about whether putting a
header
in Normal.dot would *really* cause problems with labels (much less
envelopes). It's nice to have confirmation of what I was beginning to
fear
was just superstition or an old wives' tale.



--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

I believe that's been reported for using New Word Document from the Start
Menu or some such (haven't been paying close attention).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Daiya Mitchell" <daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID> wrote in message
news:%23EHZhTYKIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Although, now doesn't Word 2007 refuse to use a customized Normal if you
right-click somewhere and create new document? It pulls the settings
from somewhere else? I wonder if Word 2007 is smart enough to use that
"somewhere else" for labels and envelopes too.

Daiya Mitchell wrote:
Yep, it definitely did. I tested it because I wasn't sure I wasn't
just repeating conventional wisdom either--and yeah, the header text
showed up under my return address, and the "single sheet of labels"
pushed the last row onto the second page.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
Well, the problem is that if you ever touch the header in Normal.dot
(or any
template), you are left with an empty paragraph in the header, which
one
would expect to interfere with labels, but when you use Word's built-in
label definitions, it uses its built-in magic to set the header/footer
margin to 0" and somehow suppress any error messages about being
outside the
printable area, so I've always been curious about whether putting a
header
in Normal.dot would *really* cause problems with labels (much less
envelopes). It's nice to have confirmation of what I was beginning to
fear
was just superstition or an old wives' tale.

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Larry
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

How do you set this up yourself, in your own Word 2007?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OWt0YrWKIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Quote:
If you have Normal.dot set up with "Different first page" and content only
in the Header (not in the First Page Header), this would not pose *as
much*
of a problem with labels, since you have to work at it to get more than
one
sheet, and when you merge them, each sheet is a separate section (all page
1s, as it were).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:OAgJnYVKIHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Is this different under 2007 than under 97-2003? In my Word 97, I have
a
set up I've had for years, in which there is a header in the normal
template. In any new document that I create, as soon as it has more
than
one page, the second page automaticaly has a header.

Conflicts with labels are not a concern here, since the person who needs
this does not use that function.

So, is there anything about 2007 that prevents me from doing what I do
with
97?




"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:O9g4TfoJIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
No you don't! The normal template should not have a header/footer as
it
will
conflict with other functions eg labels. If you want documents with
header/footers, create a new document template and use that to create
your
documents, or insert the header footers as required with
macro/autotext
etc.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Larry wrote:
Doug thanks. I wasn't clear in my question. I want to set up the
Normal template so that each new Word document automatically has the
header.

Larry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
news:uu3K36jJIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Almost everything in Word 2007 works the same as in previous
versions - Finding the way to do it though can be a challenge

Create the header that you want to start on the second page on the
First page of the document, then on the Ribbon, select the Page
Layout tab and then click on the arrow at the right hand end of the
lower border of the Page Setup section of the Ribbon and then go to
the Layout tab of the Page Setup dialog and check the Different
First Page box and then click on OK.

The header that you had set up will then disappear, to reappear on
the second and subsequent pages of the document.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:uzIMpejJIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
A friend with Word 2007 wants to have each new document
automatically set up
so that it has a header starting at the second page. Years ago
Suzanne gave
me instructions on setting this up and I've used it ever since.
But the same approach doesn't seem to work for Word 2007.



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Daiya Mitchell
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

Thanks for confirming, Jay.

Jay Freedman wrote:
Quote:
No change -- Word 2007 behaves the same way, using Normal.dotm for the
label document and sticking in the header, even though it's the main
header rather than the first-page header and there is only one page.

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:46:44 -0500, Daiya Mitchell
daiyaNOSPAM@mvps.org.INVALID> wrote:


Although, now doesn't Word 2007 refuse to use a customized Normal if you
right-click somewhere and create new document? It pulls the settings

from somewhere else? I wonder if Word 2007 is smart enough to use that

"somewhere else" for labels and envelopes too.

Daiya Mitchell wrote:

Yep, it definitely did. I tested it because I wasn't sure I wasn't
just repeating conventional wisdom either--and yeah, the header text
showed up under my return address, and the "single sheet of labels"
pushed the last row onto the second page.

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:

Well, the problem is that if you ever touch the header in Normal.dot
(or any
template), you are left with an empty paragraph in the header, which one
would expect to interfere with labels, but when you use Word's built-in
label definitions, it uses its built-in magic to set the header/footer
margin to 0" and somehow suppress any error messages about being
outside the
printable area, so I've always been curious about whether putting a
header
in Normal.dot would *really* cause problems with labels (much less
envelopes). It's nice to have confirmation of what I was beginning to
fear
was just superstition or an old wives' tale.




--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

If you're asking me, I'm not using Word 2007, but I would never add a header
or footer to Normal.dot. In fact, I don't customize any part of Normal.dot
that affects documents (margins, font, etc.), only the UI (macros, AutoText,
toolbar buttons, etc.). I use custom templates for all my documents.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:urgLdKeKIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Quote:
How do you set this up yourself, in your own Word 2007?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OWt0YrWKIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
If you have Normal.dot set up with "Different first page" and content
only
in the Header (not in the First Page Header), this would not pose *as
much*
of a problem with labels, since you have to work at it to get more than
one
sheet, and when you merge them, each sheet is a separate section (all
page
1s, as it were).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:OAgJnYVKIHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Is this different under 2007 than under 97-2003? In my Word 97, I
have
a
set up I've had for years, in which there is a header in the normal
template. In any new document that I create, as soon as it has more
than
one page, the second page automaticaly has a header.

Conflicts with labels are not a concern here, since the person who
needs
this does not use that function.

So, is there anything about 2007 that prevents me from doing what I do
with
97?




"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:O9g4TfoJIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
No you don't! The normal template should not have a header/footer as
it
will
conflict with other functions eg labels. If you want documents with
header/footers, create a new document template and use that to
create
your
documents, or insert the header footers as required with
macro/autotext
etc.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Larry wrote:
Doug thanks. I wasn't clear in my question. I want to set up the
Normal template so that each new Word document automatically has
the
header.

Larry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in
message
news:uu3K36jJIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Almost everything in Word 2007 works the same as in previous
versions - Finding the way to do it though can be a challenge

Create the header that you want to start on the second page on
the
First page of the document, then on the Ribbon, select the Page
Layout tab and then click on the arrow at the right hand end of
the
lower border of the Page Setup section of the Ribbon and then go
to
the Layout tab of the Page Setup dialog and check the Different
First Page box and then click on OK.

The header that you had set up will then disappear, to reappear
on
the second and subsequent pages of the document.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:uzIMpejJIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
A friend with Word 2007 wants to have each new document
automatically set up
so that it has a header starting at the second page. Years ago
Suzanne gave
me instructions on setting this up and I've used it ever since.
But the same approach doesn't seem to work for Word 2007.




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Larry
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

Ok, but I thought the instructions you gave me years ago, which I've used
ever since, involved putting a header the Normal template.

So I guess the idea is to put the header in a global template located in the
StartUp folder?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uOGvnYgKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Quote:
If you're asking me, I'm not using Word 2007, but I would never add a
header
or footer to Normal.dot. In fact, I don't customize any part of Normal.dot
that affects documents (margins, font, etc.), only the UI (macros,
AutoText,
toolbar buttons, etc.). I use custom templates for all my documents.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:urgLdKeKIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
How do you set this up yourself, in your own Word 2007?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OWt0YrWKIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
If you have Normal.dot set up with "Different first page" and content
only
in the Header (not in the First Page Header), this would not pose *as
much*
of a problem with labels, since you have to work at it to get more
than
one
sheet, and when you merge them, each sheet is a separate section (all
page
1s, as it were).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:OAgJnYVKIHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Is this different under 2007 than under 97-2003? In my Word 97, I
have
a
set up I've had for years, in which there is a header in the normal
template. In any new document that I create, as soon as it has more
than
one page, the second page automaticaly has a header.

Conflicts with labels are not a concern here, since the person who
needs
this does not use that function.

So, is there anything about 2007 that prevents me from doing what I
do
with
97?




"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:O9g4TfoJIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
No you don't! The normal template should not have a header/footer
as
it
will
conflict with other functions eg labels. If you want documents
with
header/footers, create a new document template and use that to
create
your
documents, or insert the header footers as required with
macro/autotext
etc.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Larry wrote:
Doug thanks. I wasn't clear in my question. I want to set up
the
Normal template so that each new Word document automatically has
the
header.

Larry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in
message
news:uu3K36jJIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Almost everything in Word 2007 works the same as in previous
versions - Finding the way to do it though can be a challenge

Create the header that you want to start on the second page on
the
First page of the document, then on the Ribbon, select the Page
Layout tab and then click on the arrow at the right hand end of
the
lower border of the Page Setup section of the Ribbon and then
go
to
the Layout tab of the Page Setup dialog and check the Different
First Page box and then click on OK.

The header that you had set up will then disappear, to reappear
on
the second and subsequent pages of the document.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:uzIMpejJIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
A friend with Word 2007 wants to have each new document
automatically set up
so that it has a header starting at the second page. Years
ago
Suzanne gave
me instructions on setting this up and I've used it ever
since.
But the same approach doesn't seem to work for Word 2007.





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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

Not located in the Startup Folder and therefore not a Global Template. Just
create a template with the header/footer information that you require and
save it in the User or Work Group Templates folder and use it as the basis
of any documents that you want to create that will automatically have the
header and footer in them. Put a button on a Quick Access Toolbar to
facilitate use of this template if you want.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:%23H20mPhKIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Ok, but I thought the instructions you gave me years ago, which I've used
ever since, involved putting a header the Normal template.

So I guess the idea is to put the header in a global template located in
the
StartUp folder?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uOGvnYgKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
If you're asking me, I'm not using Word 2007, but I would never add a
header
or footer to Normal.dot. In fact, I don't customize any part of
Normal.dot
that affects documents (margins, font, etc.), only the UI (macros,
AutoText,
toolbar buttons, etc.). I use custom templates for all my documents.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:urgLdKeKIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
How do you set this up yourself, in your own Word 2007?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OWt0YrWKIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
If you have Normal.dot set up with "Different first page" and content
only
in the Header (not in the First Page Header), this would not pose *as
much*
of a problem with labels, since you have to work at it to get more
than
one
sheet, and when you merge them, each sheet is a separate section (all
page
1s, as it were).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:OAgJnYVKIHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Is this different under 2007 than under 97-2003? In my Word 97, I
have
a
set up I've had for years, in which there is a header in the normal
template. In any new document that I create, as soon as it has
more
than
one page, the second page automaticaly has a header.

Conflicts with labels are not a concern here, since the person who
needs
this does not use that function.

So, is there anything about 2007 that prevents me from doing what I
do
with
97?




"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:O9g4TfoJIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
No you don't! The normal template should not have a header/footer
as
it
will
conflict with other functions eg labels. If you want documents
with
header/footers, create a new document template and use that to
create
your
documents, or insert the header footers as required with
macro/autotext
etc.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Larry wrote:
Doug thanks. I wasn't clear in my question. I want to set up
the
Normal template so that each new Word document automatically
has
the
header.

Larry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in
message
news:uu3K36jJIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Almost everything in Word 2007 works the same as in previous
versions - Finding the way to do it though can be a challenge

Create the header that you want to start on the second page on
the
First page of the document, then on the Ribbon, select the
Page
Layout tab and then click on the arrow at the right hand end
of
the
lower border of the Page Setup section of the Ribbon and then
go
to
the Layout tab of the Page Setup dialog and check the
Different
First Page box and then click on OK.

The header that you had set up will then disappear, to
reappear
on
the second and subsequent pages of the document.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail
yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:uzIMpejJIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
A friend with Word 2007 wants to have each new document
automatically set up
so that it has a header starting at the second page. Years
ago
Suzanne gave
me instructions on setting this up and I've used it ever
since.
But the same approach doesn't seem to work for Word 2007.






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Larry
Guest





PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic header for new documents in Word 2007 Reply with quote

But the person I'm helping wants this feature in all new documents, not just
some. In other words, what is desired is that whenever a new document is
created (no matter what the means of creating it), it will have this
feature.





"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in message
news:%237UTDqhKIHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Quote:
Not located in the Startup Folder and therefore not a Global Template.
Just
create a template with the header/footer information that you require and
save it in the User or Work Group Templates folder and use it as the basis
of any documents that you want to create that will automatically have the
header and footer in them. Put a button on a Quick Access Toolbar to
facilitate use of this template if you want.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail yourself of my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:%23H20mPhKIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Ok, but I thought the instructions you gave me years ago, which I've
used
ever since, involved putting a header the Normal template.

So I guess the idea is to put the header in a global template located in
the
StartUp folder?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uOGvnYgKIHA.4272@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
If you're asking me, I'm not using Word 2007, but I would never add a
header
or footer to Normal.dot. In fact, I don't customize any part of
Normal.dot
that affects documents (margins, font, etc.), only the UI (macros,
AutoText,
toolbar buttons, etc.). I use custom templates for all my documents.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgro
up
so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:urgLdKeKIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
How do you set this up yourself, in your own Word 2007?


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" <sbarnhill@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OWt0YrWKIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
If you have Normal.dot set up with "Different first page" and
content
only
in the Header (not in the First Page Header), this would not pose
*as
much*
of a problem with labels, since you have to work at it to get more
than
one
sheet, and when you merge them, each sheet is a separate section
(all
page
1s, as it were).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:OAgJnYVKIHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Is this different under 2007 than under 97-2003? In my Word 97,
I
have
a
set up I've had for years, in which there is a header in the
normal
template. In any new document that I create, as soon as it has
more
than
one page, the second page automaticaly has a header.

Conflicts with labels are not a concern here, since the person
who
needs
this does not use that function.

So, is there anything about 2007 that prevents me from doing what
I
do
with
97?




"Graham Mayor" <gmayor@REMOVETHISmvps.org> wrote in message
news:O9g4TfoJIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
No you don't! The normal template should not have a
header/footer
as
it
will
conflict with other functions eg labels. If you want documents
with
header/footers, create a new document template and use that to
create
your
documents, or insert the header footers as required with
macro/autotext
etc.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org


Larry wrote:
Doug thanks. I wasn't clear in my question. I want to set
up
the
Normal template so that each new Word document automatically
has
the
header.

Larry


"Doug Robbins - Word MVP" <dkr@REMOVECAPSmvps.org> wrote in
message
news:uu3K36jJIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Almost everything in Word 2007 works the same as in previous
versions - Finding the way to do it though can be a
challenge

Create the header that you want to start on the second page
on
the
First page of the document, then on the Ribbon, select the
Page
Layout tab and then click on the arrow at the right hand end
of
the
lower border of the Page Setup section of the Ribbon and
then
go
to
the Layout tab of the Page Setup dialog and check the
Different
First Page box and then click on OK.

The header that you had set up will then disappear, to
reappear
on
the second and subsequent pages of the document.

--
Hope this helps.

Please reply to the newsgroup unless you wish to avail
yourself
of
my
services on a paid consulting basis.

Doug Robbins - Word MVP

"Larry" <larry328NOSPAM@att.net> wrote in message
news:uzIMpejJIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
A friend with Word 2007 wants to have each new document
automatically set up
so that it has a header starting at the second page. Years
ago
Suzanne gave
me instructions on setting this up and I've used it ever
since.
But the same approach doesn't seem to work for Word 2007.








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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: This modification is not allowed because the selection i Reply with quote

i bought this program so the time is not out or any thing still it says this
modification is not allowed because the selection i locked..

"CyberTaz" wrote:

Quote:
The clock starts when the trial version is *installed* not when the user
"gets around" to activating it.

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 4/22/07 8:20 AM, in article
B348257E-A68C-4578-945F-4DCF7DBC1500@microsoft.com, "Pk-t112"
Pk-t112@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

I also am getting this message. I have a 3 week old Gateway, Vista Home
Premium, Word 2007. I did activate the trial version using the product key,
and it has not expired yet. I keep getting a message reminding me that I will
need to buy the full version and can do it through the internet
(recommended). For today, I just want to do my work, and am having the same
problem as previous posts. THe task bars are locked, I can not type anything.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

If you downloaded it, it is just a trial version, and it has probably
expired.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Bennito" <Bennito@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:03A48496-0C74-4B4E-8980-2E9D073408A0@microsoft.com...
HELLO!
I have the same problem. My Office 2007 is "locked".
I also can't click anything in the Tabs. Only the Office button works to
open or save doc's. I can't type & I can't click on Review, to change
settings at all!
-I DID download this office- (it's not bought in a store) could that be
the
problem?
THX a bunch.
Bennito

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

The 'number key' only allows you to install the applications, not
activate:
you need to use on line Activation. Use Alt+F, I, then select Resources
button and Activate.

Terry

"GS1150" <GS1150@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8F0AC891-AC8C-4EF4-8FF1-6F23F3BB8FB2@microsoft.com...
Its a dell, Vista, 2007, I activated it using the key number, then it
locked
, then I reinstalled Office, and its still locked.

Thanks for you help

"Terry Farrell" wrote:

What computer, what OS, what version of Office. If it is Office 2007,
has
it
been activated? Is it trial version that has expired?

--
Terry Farrell - MS Word MVP

"GS1150" <GS1150@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FCBF7A29-020B-4442-A3C1-2F2FDBDA90EE@microsoft.com...
I have the same problem, I never locked it, and both Office and word
are
doing the same thing. The computer is a dell, 1 week old,

any suggestions, the ribbon is totally locked, and I get this
message,

This modification is not allowed because the selection is locked

thanks

"CyberTaz" wrote:

If using 2007, go to the Review Tab of the Ribbon if the Restrict
Editing
&
Formatting Task Pane isn't displayed. Then click the Protect
Document
icon
(right end of the Ribbon) & choose Restrict Editing & Formatting.
At
the
bottom of the pane click the Stop Protection button - if there is
no
password require you will be allowed to revise the document. If
prompted
for
a password & you don't know what it is you can't make changes
anywhere
the
Find Next Region... And Show All Regions... Buttons highlight for
you.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 3/24/07 1:26 AM, in article
700AFF39-155D-4D14-B8DF-0BBA56D35E68@microsoft.com, "John"
John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

I can't find Tools.
Where is it?

"CyberTaz" wrote:

It sounds like you're in a Protected doc. Go to
Tools>Protection &
see
if
there is a command in the submenu that reads as "Unprotect
Document".
If you
attempt to remove the protection you may be prompted for a
password.

If this isn't the issue be sure to specify version info when
you
respond.

--
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4025E11D-ECDA-4626-9318-591C236B2653@microsoft.com...
I can open the document, but i can't type anything. I can't do
anything
with
it. The bottom it says "This modification is not allowed
because
the
"selection" is locked."

please answer me....












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