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Johnfed
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home edition
system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just deleted a
shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a replacement
defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Quote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.
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Johnfed
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

Quote:
John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.


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MAP
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

Try running the edit on line 280 left side.
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
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Mike Pawlak


"Johnfed" wrote:

Quote:
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.


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Nepatsfan
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

See if this helps.

In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this type
of file.
Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
Hit the Open button.
Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
highlighted as the program to open this file.
If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program to
open this kind of file".
Click OK.
Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
Quote:
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.


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Johnfed
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

Thanks for the suggestion. I got as far as looking for mmc.exe in the System
32 folder but I could not find it. I will next do a search with Windows
Explorer and see if it is located somewhere else on my computer.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

Quote:
See if this helps.

In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this type
of file.
Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
Hit the Open button.
Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
highlighted as the program to open this file.
If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program to
open this kind of file".
Click OK.
Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.






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Johnfed
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
"Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
re-install from.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

Quote:
See if this helps.

In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this type
of file.
Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
Hit the Open button.
Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
highlighted as the program to open this file.
If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program to
open this kind of file".
Click OK.
Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.






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HeyBub
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

Johnfed wrote:
Quote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.

Use this as an excuse to replace the Windows defrag with something more
friendly.

http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag

Is free and pretty good. I'm sure there are others.
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Nepatsfan
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the Microsoft
Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.

Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the Administrative
Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer. Report
back with any error messages that you receive.

Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you don't
have a Windows XP installation CD?

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
Quote:
I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
"Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
re-install from.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

See if this helps.

In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this
type
of file.
Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32
folder.
Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
Hit the Open button.
Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
highlighted as the program to open this file.
If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program
to
open this kind of file".
Click OK.
Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.






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Johnfed
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

I have re-installed Microsoft Management Console from a source on the
Internet. I found a copy of mmc.exe and copied it into System 32 folder. Now
I get the error message "The procedure entry poin
?MMCNullInterface@Bookeeping@@SGXHPBGO@Z could not be located in the dynamic
link library mmcbase.DLL. That is the same message I now get when I try to
run Computer Management and Event viewer, as you suggested.

I did run
http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag as suggested by HeyBub in his post and
it worked to completion, defragmenting 40 of 41 fragmented files which didn't
seem like a lot of files compared to the degredation in restore time that I
have been experiencing. I ran restore a couple of times, once going back to
early December and when that didn't help I restored to 12/27. That last
restore took a couple hours or more....way excessive.

To answer your question: X/P was pre-installed on my HP computer when I
bought it so I do not have an X/P disk.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

Quote:
Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the Microsoft
Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.

Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the Administrative
Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer. Report
back with any error messages that you receive.

I did run
Quote:

Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you don't
have a Windows XP installation CD?

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
"Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
re-install from.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

See if this helps.

In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this
type
of file.
Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32
folder.
Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
Hit the Open button.
Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is now
highlighted as the program to open this file.
If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected program
to
open this kind of file".
Click OK.
Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.










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Johnfed
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip. I ran the program and it defragged 40 of 41 files which
seemed like a small number compared to my systems poor performance on system
restores. Last restore took more than a couple of hours.

"Gerry" wrote:

Quote:
John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.


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Nepatsfan
Guest





PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

OK, let's start with the easy stuff.

You might want to take a look at the following article from HP. If you're having
major problems, you may have no option but to reinstall XP.

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Obtaining a Recovery CD or DVD set
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07143

If you end up having to reinstall XP, take a look at this article.

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Performing an HP System Recovery in Windows XP
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07145#bph07145_doc

That said, here are a few other suggestions.

First off, there's a command line version of XP's disk defragmenter. It can be
run by doing the following;
Go to Start and click on Run.
In the Open box, enter cmd.exe.
This should open a Command Prompt window.
At the prompt enter the following and hit the Enter key;

defrag.exe C: -v

You'll see an analysis report first and a final report when the program ends.

As for the problem you're having with mmc.exe, I would call the following a
solution of last resort. Microsoft states that this file will work with Windows
XP. Scroll down to the Windows XP section. The file to download would be the x86
version.

MMC 3.0 update is available for Windows Server 2003 and for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907265

Finally, having problems with Windows programs not working correctly and System
Restore taking hours to complete could be a sign of problems with your XP
installation or the hard drive on your system. The first thing to suspect when
multiple problems develop is some sort of malware. I'm not saying that's the
source of your problems but it's a possibility.

Good luck

Nepatsfan


"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C69C6050-1210-4786-A51B-13A186F8DA22@microsoft.com...
Quote:
I have re-installed Microsoft Management Console from a source on the
Internet. I found a copy of mmc.exe and copied it into System 32 folder. Now
I get the error message "The procedure entry poin
?MMCNullInterface@Bookeeping@@SGXHPBGO@Z could not be located in the dynamic
link library mmcbase.DLL. That is the same message I now get when I try to
run Computer Management and Event viewer, as you suggested.

I did run
http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag as suggested by HeyBub in his post and
it worked to completion, defragmenting 40 of 41 fragmented files which didn't
seem like a lot of files compared to the degredation in restore time that I
have been experiencing. I ran restore a couple of times, once going back to
early December and when that didn't help I restored to 12/27. That last
restore took a couple hours or more....way excessive.

To answer your question: X/P was pre-installed on my HP computer when I
bought it so I do not have an X/P disk.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the
Microsoft
Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.

Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the
Administrative
Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer. Report
back with any error messages that you receive.

I did run

Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you
don't
have a Windows XP installation CD?

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
"Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
re-install from.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

See if this helps.

In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this
type
of file.
Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32
folder.
Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
Hit the Open button.
Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is
now
highlighted as the program to open this file.
If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected
program
to
open this kind of file".
Click OK.
Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click
and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected
defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it
for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.










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Johnfed
Guest





PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

O.K. I have done everything I was asked and some things that I tried on my
own and everything now seems to be o.k. (I'm not sure which made the
difference) Defrag works although it is not the Windows defrag.exe, but
Diskeeper which I bought a couple of days ago for $29.00 and which was also
not working when I installed it. The programs, Computer Management and Event
Viewer in Control Panel, Administrative Tools are working also. Disk defrag
cleaned up my C: and D: disks and everything is healthy. SO: You guys are
all "super dudes" to help a 73 yr old computer novice solve what he thought
was a serious problem. Bless you all, and Happy New Year 2008! I'm out of
here.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

Quote:
OK, let's start with the easy stuff.

You might want to take a look at the following article from HP. If you're having
major problems, you may have no option but to reinstall XP.

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Obtaining a Recovery CD or DVD set
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07143

If you end up having to reinstall XP, take a look at this article.

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Performing an HP System Recovery in Windows XP
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07145#bph07145_doc

That said, here are a few other suggestions.

First off, there's a command line version of XP's disk defragmenter. It can be
run by doing the following;
Go to Start and click on Run.
In the Open box, enter cmd.exe.
This should open a Command Prompt window.
At the prompt enter the following and hit the Enter key;

defrag.exe C: -v

You'll see an analysis report first and a final report when the program ends.

As for the problem you're having with mmc.exe, I would call the following a
solution of last resort. Microsoft states that this file will work with Windows
XP. Scroll down to the Windows XP section. The file to download would be the x86
version.

MMC 3.0 update is available for Windows Server 2003 and for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907265

Finally, having problems with Windows programs not working correctly and System
Restore taking hours to complete could be a sign of problems with your XP
installation or the hard drive on your system. The first thing to suspect when
multiple problems develop is some sort of malware. I'm not saying that's the
source of your problems but it's a possibility.

Good luck

Nepatsfan


"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C69C6050-1210-4786-A51B-13A186F8DA22@microsoft.com...
I have re-installed Microsoft Management Console from a source on the
Internet. I found a copy of mmc.exe and copied it into System 32 folder. Now
I get the error message "The procedure entry poin
?MMCNullInterface@Bookeeping@@SGXHPBGO@Z could not be located in the dynamic
link library mmcbase.DLL. That is the same message I now get when I try to
run Computer Management and Event viewer, as you suggested.

I did run
http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag as suggested by HeyBub in his post and
it worked to completion, defragmenting 40 of 41 fragmented files which didn't
seem like a lot of files compared to the degredation in restore time that I
have been experiencing. I ran restore a couple of times, once going back to
early December and when that didn't help I restored to 12/27. That last
restore took a couple hours or more....way excessive.

To answer your question: X/P was pre-installed on my HP computer when I
bought it so I do not have an X/P disk.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the
Microsoft
Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.

Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the
Administrative
Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer. Report
back with any error messages that you receive.

I did run

Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you
don't
have a Windows XP installation CD?

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
"Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
re-install from.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

See if this helps.

In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open this
type
of file.
Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the C:\WINDOWS\System32
folder.
Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
Hit the Open button.
Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is
now
highlighted as the program to open this file.
If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected
program
to
open this kind of file".
Click OK.
Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right click
and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected
defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with it
for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.














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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: Restore defrag program Reply with quote

Glad to hear you were able to fix your problems. Thanks for the update.

Happy New Year

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C979457E-E850-4306-B75F-FF883130A8C5@microsoft.com...
Quote:
O.K. I have done everything I was asked and some things that I tried on my
own and everything now seems to be o.k. (I'm not sure which made the
difference) Defrag works although it is not the Windows defrag.exe, but
Diskeeper which I bought a couple of days ago for $29.00 and which was also
not working when I installed it. The programs, Computer Management and Event
Viewer in Control Panel, Administrative Tools are working also. Disk defrag
cleaned up my C: and D: disks and everything is healthy. SO: You guys are
all "super dudes" to help a 73 yr old computer novice solve what he thought
was a serious problem. Bless you all, and Happy New Year 2008! I'm out of
here.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

OK, let's start with the easy stuff.

You might want to take a look at the following article from HP. If you're
having
major problems, you may have no option but to reinstall XP.

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Obtaining a Recovery CD or DVD set
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07143

If you end up having to reinstall XP, take a look at this article.

HP and Compaq Desktop PCs - Performing an HP System Recovery in Windows XP
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=bph07145#bph07145_doc

That said, here are a few other suggestions.

First off, there's a command line version of XP's disk defragmenter. It can
be
run by doing the following;
Go to Start and click on Run.
In the Open box, enter cmd.exe.
This should open a Command Prompt window.
At the prompt enter the following and hit the Enter key;

defrag.exe C: -v

You'll see an analysis report first and a final report when the program ends.

As for the problem you're having with mmc.exe, I would call the following a
solution of last resort. Microsoft states that this file will work with
Windows
XP. Scroll down to the Windows XP section. The file to download would be the
x86
version.

MMC 3.0 update is available for Windows Server 2003 and for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907265

Finally, having problems with Windows programs not working correctly and
System
Restore taking hours to complete could be a sign of problems with your XP
installation or the hard drive on your system. The first thing to suspect
when
multiple problems develop is some sort of malware. I'm not saying that's the
source of your problems but it's a possibility.

Good luck

Nepatsfan


"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C69C6050-1210-4786-A51B-13A186F8DA22@microsoft.com...
I have re-installed Microsoft Management Console from a source on the
Internet. I found a copy of mmc.exe and copied it into System 32 folder.
Now
I get the error message "The procedure entry poin
?MMCNullInterface@Bookeeping@@SGXHPBGO@Z could not be located in the
dynamic
link library mmcbase.DLL. That is the same message I now get when I try to
run Computer Management and Event viewer, as you suggested.

I did run
http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag as suggested by HeyBub in his post and
it worked to completion, defragmenting 40 of 41 fragmented files which
didn't
seem like a lot of files compared to the degredation in restore time that I
have been experiencing. I ran restore a couple of times, once going back
to
early December and when that didn't help I restored to 12/27. That last
restore took a couple hours or more....way excessive.

To answer your question: X/P was pre-installed on my HP computer when I
bought it so I do not have an X/P disk.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

Sounds like your problem extends beyond just the inability to run Disk
Defragmenter. Tools in Windows XP such as the defragmenter require the
Microsoft
Management Console, mmc.exe, to work properly.

Go to Control Panel and double click Administrative Tools. In the
Administrative
Tools folder, see if you can run Computer Management and Event Viewer.
Report
back with any error messages that you receive.

I did run

Also, when you say "I have nothing to re-install from", does that mean you
don't
have a Windows XP installation CD?

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6750515C-1B4B-4561-A49C-0A56FF2F57D1@microsoft.com...
I found and associated mmc.exe with dfrg.msc and got a new message.
"Application failed to start because mmcbase.DLL was not found.
Re-installing the application may fix this" it said. I have nothing to
re-install from.

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

See if this helps.

In Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\WINDOWS\System32 folder.
In that folder locate the file named dfrg.msc.
Right click on dfrg.msc and select "Open With..." from the menu.
This should bring up a dialog where you can select a program to open
this
type
of file.
Hit the Browse button and navigate once again to the
C:\WINDOWS\System32
folder.
Locate the file named mmc.exe and click on it.
Hit the Open button.
Back in the Open With dialog, make sure Microsoft Management Console is
now
highlighted as the program to open this file.
If so, put a check mark in the box next to "Always use the selected
program
to
open this kind of file".
Click OK.
Go back to the Start menu and see if you can launch Disk Defragmenter.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

"Johnfed" <Johnfed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C426D95-2BB9-4E04-880B-A57635ACF824@microsoft.com...
thank you for your response. I found the folder and did a right
click
and
selected install. Went to program menu, accessories and selected
defrag.
Got message that defrag.msc "does not have a program associated with
it
for
performing this action". Says to create an association in the Folder
Options
control panel. Does this mean the program did not load?

"Gerry" wrote:

John

Open Windows Explorer and navigate to the windows\inf folder. Find
the
dfrg.inf file, right click on it and select Install. You may be
asked
for the XP CD.
Source: Ramesh

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Johnfed wrote:
Somehow I have deleted the defrag program in my windows X/P home
edition system. I have tried various things to insure I have not
just
deleted a shortcut.

Where can I find a location that will allow me to download a
replacement defrag file.
I did not get a system disk with my HP Pavillion computer.














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