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 Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: windows xp with service pack 2 full version |
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I am starting a new enterprise company i purchased 6 refurbished computers
from a trusted wholesale company . comps have been scrubbed for security . my
question is will xp pro full version be able to put xp on all 6 comps? is
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Shenan Stanley
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:09 am Post subject: Re: windows xp with service pack 2 full version |
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cboardwoman wrote:
| Quote: | I am starting a new enterprise company i purchased 6 refurbished
computers from a trusted wholesale company . comps have been
scrubbed for security . my question is will xp pro full version be
able to put xp on all 6 comps? is there a limit of comps you can
load?
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As it has seemingly always been (just not limited by software - only by
agreement until Windows XP) - you have to purchase a license to run a
Windows operating system. It is one license equals installation and use on
one computer.
In other words - you have 6 computers with no operating system (I am
inferring from your posting) - so you will need 6 licenses of Windows XP
Professional (seems to be the OS you are referring to) in order to install
it on all 6 machines.
License and CD are not interchangeable terms. You can get a volume license
(you will be installing on over 5 computers) if you wish. Or you can just
purchase one copy of Windows XP Professional (retail) and then purchase 5
more licenses at a *very slightly* discounted price. Or you could buy 6 OEM
licenses/CDs from a known legitimate vendor (although many might suggest not
doing this because there are many limitations to what can be done/what is
supplied with OEM licenses.)
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Ken Blake, MVP
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:15 am Post subject: Re: windows xp with service pack 2 full version |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:02:02 -0800, cboardwoman
<cboardwoman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I am starting a new enterprise company i purchased 6 refurbished computers
from a trusted wholesale company . comps have been scrubbed for security . my
question is will xp pro full version be able to put xp on all 6 comps? is
there a limit of comps you can load?
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The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
computer.
There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's been in
effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows 3.1. The only
thing new with XP is that there's now an enforcement mechanism.
If yours is a retail version, not an OEM one, you can buy extra
licenses (see
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/addlic.asp). But it's
not generally a good deal. The problem is that Microsoft sells
additional licenses at only a small savings over the list price.
You're almost certainly better off just buying a complete second copy
from a discount source.
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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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Xandros
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: windows xp with service pack 2 full version |
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You can put XP Pro on as many computers as you want to. You only need a
different license for each one or purchase a Volume License.
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| Quote: | I am starting a new enterprise company i purchased 6 refurbished computers
from a trusted wholesale company . comps have been scrubbed for security .
my
question is will xp pro full version be able to put xp on all 6 comps? is
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Poprivet`
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: windows xp with service pack 2 full version |
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cboardwoman wrote:
| Quote: | I am starting a new enterprise company i purchased 6
refurbished computers from a trusted wholesale
company .
comps have been scrubbed for security . my question
is
will xp pro full version be able to put xp on all 6
comps? is there a limit of comps you can load?
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Yes, as long as you either have 6 separate licenses and
keys, or a multiple-machine license for at least 6
machines.
One instance of the OS per machine per license. 6
machines, 6 licenses. Or a site license for 6
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Sam Hobbs
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: windows xp with service pack 2 full version |
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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | cboardwoman wrote:
I am starting a new enterprise company i purchased 6 refurbished
computers from a trusted wholesale company . comps have been
scrubbed for security . my question is will xp pro full version be
able to put xp on all 6 comps? is there a limit of comps you can
load?
As it has seemingly always been (just not limited by software - only by
agreement until Windows XP) - you have to purchase a license to run a
Windows operating system. It is one license equals installation and use
on one computer.
In other words - you have 6 computers with no operating system (I am
inferring from your posting) - so you will need 6 licenses of Windows XP
Professional (seems to be the OS you are referring to) in order to install
it on all 6 machines.
License and CD are not interchangeable terms. You can get a volume
license (you will be installing on over 5 computers) if you wish. Or you
can just purchase one copy of Windows XP Professional (retail) and then
purchase 5 more licenses at a *very slightly* discounted price. Or you
could buy 6 OEM licenses/CDs from a known legitimate vendor (although many
might suggest not doing this because there are many limitations to what
can be done/what is supplied with OEM licenses.)
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We don't know what OS was on the systems but if they had OEM copies of XP
then what happens to that license? Does it become a permanent part of the
Microsoft billions and use of the licenses lost forever? |
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Shenan Stanley
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: windows xp with service pack 2 full version |
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Sam Hobbs wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
cboardwoman wrote:
| Quote: | I am starting a new enterprise company i purchased 6 refurbished
computers from a trusted wholesale company . comps have been
scrubbed for security . my question is will xp pro full version be
able to put xp on all 6 comps? is there a limit of comps you can
load?
As it has seemingly always been (just not limited by software -
only by agreement until Windows XP) - you have to purchase a
license to run a Windows operating system. It is one license
equals installation and use on one computer.
In other words - you have 6 computers with no operating system (I
am inferring from your posting) - so you will need 6 licenses of
Windows XP Professional (seems to be the OS you are referring to)
in order to install it on all 6 machines.
License and CD are not interchangeable terms. You can get a volume
license (you will be installing on over 5 computers) if you wish. Or you
can just purchase one copy of Windows XP Professional
(retail) and then purchase 5 more licenses at a *very slightly*
discounted price. Or you could buy 6 OEM licenses/CDs from a
known legitimate vendor (although many might suggest not doing
this because there are many limitations to what can be done/what
is supplied with OEM licenses.)
We don't know what OS was on the systems but if they had OEM copies
of XP then what happens to that license? Does it become a permanent
part of the Microsoft billions and use of the licenses lost forever?
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If the operating system that was on the "6 refurbished computers [bought]
from a trusted wholesale company" happened to have been the OEM version of
Windows XP *and* there was no longer any way to tell what the product key
for each of those OEM licensed copies of Windows XP were (from what was
received in the sale) - then the computers in question were bought 'sans an
OS' and nothing else is relevant.
If the OEM Product Key Sticker is still on the 6 machines - and said owner
of the systems has a generic OEM that will work with said product key *or*
said owner contacts the original equipment manufacturer of said refurbished
products and obtains legitimate restore/recovery media for the systems based
off the product key stickers on the machines - then they can certainly use
that legitimate license - as it is attached - in accordance with the EULA -
to that machine.
However - I feel your question is more basic than that, probably...
To be in 100% accordance with Microsoft's Windows XP OEM EULA - if the
system has an OEM copy installed upon it with product key XYZ234 and the
machine is melted and the product key and CD are left behind safely - you
might as well burn the product key and CD as well - since their usefulness
died with the first machine they were installed/utilized upon. It is one of
the things that makes OEM licensing so unattractive.
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Shenan Stanley
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How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
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Sam Hobbs
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: windows xp with service pack 2 full version |
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"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Sam Hobbs wrote:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
cboardwoman wrote:
I am starting a new enterprise company i purchased 6 refurbished
computers from a trusted wholesale company . comps have been
scrubbed for security . my question is will xp pro full version be
able to put xp on all 6 comps? is there a limit of comps you can
load?
As it has seemingly always been (just not limited by software -
only by agreement until Windows XP) - you have to purchase a
license to run a Windows operating system. It is one license
equals installation and use on one computer.
In other words - you have 6 computers with no operating system (I
am inferring from your posting) - so you will need 6 licenses of
Windows XP Professional (seems to be the OS you are referring to)
in order to install it on all 6 machines.
License and CD are not interchangeable terms. You can get a volume
license (you will be installing on over 5 computers) if you wish. Or you
can just purchase one copy of Windows XP Professional
(retail) and then purchase 5 more licenses at a *very slightly*
discounted price. Or you could buy 6 OEM licenses/CDs from a
known legitimate vendor (although many might suggest not doing
this because there are many limitations to what can be done/what
is supplied with OEM licenses.)
We don't know what OS was on the systems but if they had OEM copies
of XP then what happens to that license? Does it become a permanent
part of the Microsoft billions and use of the licenses lost forever?
If the operating system that was on the "6 refurbished computers [bought]
from a trusted wholesale company" happened to have been the OEM version of
Windows XP *and* there was no longer any way to tell what the product key
for each of those OEM licensed copies of Windows XP were (from what was
received in the sale) - then the computers in question were bought 'sans
an OS' and nothing else is relevant.
If the OEM Product Key Sticker is still on the 6 machines - and said owner
of the systems has a generic OEM that will work with said product key *or*
said owner contacts the original equipment manufacturer of said
refurbished products and obtains legitimate restore/recovery media for the
systems based off the product key stickers on the machines - then they can
certainly use that legitimate license - as it is attached - in accordance
with the EULA - to that machine.
However - I feel your question is more basic than that, probably...
To be in 100% accordance with Microsoft's Windows XP OEM EULA - if the
system has an OEM copy installed upon it with product key XYZ234 and the
machine is melted and the product key and CD are left behind safely - you
might as well burn the product key and CD as well - since their usefulness
died with the first machine they were installed/utilized upon. It is one
of the things that makes OEM licensing so unattractive.
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It is also one of the things that contribute a few dollars to Microsoft's
billions, and that is the point I am getting at.
If I have an item of USA currency (this probably also applies to most all
currency for most all governments) that burns in a fire, and unless I know
the serial number, where does that money go? In reality, it is the
government that has the money. The paper is just a representation of money.
So I sure don't understand why people are so tolerant of OEM copies of
Windows. If OEM copies of Windows die with the hardware then that is not a
good deal. A better deal is to have copies of Windows that can be
transferred to new systems. I do understand that there are details that make
this more complicated but I think that means a more flexible solution is
needed. As far as I know, it is difficult or impossible to lpurchase systems
without an OEM copy of Windows, even when a person has a legal copy they can
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Ken Blake, MVP
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: windows xp with service pack 2 full version |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:36:26 -0800, "Sam Hobbs"
<samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote:
| Quote: | So I sure don't understand why people are so tolerant of OEM copies of
Windows.
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I'm with you entirely.
| Quote: | If OEM copies of Windows die with the hardware then that is not a
good deal. A better deal is to have copies of Windows that can be
transferred to new systems.
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I agree. It's the reason I almost always recommend against someone's
buying an OEM copy. You can usually buy a retail Upgrade copy of
Windows XP for only slightly more than a generic OEM copy, and it's a
much better deal as far as I'm concerned. It can do a clean
installation as long as you have a prior version's CD to show it when
prompted. Most people have a prior version, but worst case if you
don't, you can get one inexpensively someplace like eBay.
If I had my druthers, there would be no such thing as an OEM license.
All licenses would be the same.
| Quote: | I do understand that there are details that make
this more complicated but I think that means a more flexible solution is
needed. As far as I know, it is difficult or impossible to lpurchase systems
without an OEM copy of Windows, even when a person has a legal copy they can
use instead.
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