Missing Security tab despite turning off Simple File Sharing

Leon Myerson · Guest

I've lost the Security tab I should see when I right click a folder and click
Sharing and Security. I've tried going through Tools, Folder Options, View,
and then unchecking the Use simple file sharing box. But still no security
tab!
I've done this repeatedly, switching it back and forth. No dice. I've
rebooted repeatedly, still nothing. I've tried system restore back to a
point in time when I think everything worked, and it tells that nothing has
actually changed, so there's nothing to restore.
One other weird thing, the Sharing tab I do get has nothing on it about
sharing anything on the local computer, there are only controls for a network
share, including how many users are allowed. This doesn't match any textbook
I have, and I don't know where it's coming from.
One final bit of weirdness, for several hours I've been unable to to access
this newsgroup's editor to post this message. I'm doing it now from an old
Windows 98 machine with no problem whatsoever, over the exact same
connection. I've also had Internet Explorer suddenly tell me that the page I
want isn't available offline, that I should use my dial-up connection. I'd
go out to the command prompt, Ping something like yahoo.com, that would work
fine, and then the browser would settle down and recognize the proper
connection to the local gateway and DSL modem.

Any ideas? I've spent hours searching Knowledge Base, and I just keeping
getting the same old crap about turning off simple file sharing. HELP!

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Wesley Vogel · Guest

Besides clearing the checkmark for Use simple file sharing [Recommended] in
Folder Options...

The sharing tab is not visible if you are logged on to a machine with an
account that does not have adequate rights.

The sharing option is not available for the Documents and Settings, Program
Files, and WINDOWS system folders. In addition, you cannot share folders in
other user's profiles.

Also. . .
The Sharing tab is not visible....
Start | Run | Type: services.msc | Click OK |
Scroll down to and double click: Server service |
Set Startup type to: Automatic | Click Apply | Click the Start button |
When it has started, click OK

If you do not see the Server service..........
This will restore the Server Service (lanmanserver).

Open Network Connections, click Start, point to Settings, click Control
Panel, and then double-click Network Connections. | Right click Your
Connection | Properties | General tab | Install button | Highlight: Service
| Add button | Highlight: File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks |
OK | Close

Check settings here...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
and/or
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer
If there is no NoSecurityTab listing then this is not the problem.
Value Name: NoSecurityTab
Value Type: REG_DWORD
Value Data: 0 or 1
0 = Security tab will be visible
1 = Security tab will not be visible

Group Policy is only available with XP Pro.

Open Group Policy...
Start | Run | Type: gpedit.msc | Click OK |
Navigate to...
Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Windows Explorer\
Remove the Security tab
Set to Not Configured or Disabled.

Remove the Security tab
[[Removes the Security tab from Windows Explorer.

If you enable this setting, users opening the Properties dialog box for all
file system objects, including folders, files, shortcuts, and drives, will
not be able to access the Security tab. As a result, users will be able to
neither change the security settings nor view a list of all users that have
access to the resource in question.

If you disable or do not configure this setting, users will be able to
access the security tab.]]

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:C14236A7-7F18-4C45-9FF3-B679AC50BD4F@microsoft.com,
Leon Myerson <LeonMyerson@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:

Leon Myerson · Guest

Thanks for responding, the information you provided is good to know.

Turns out that wasn't the actual problem. I'm a little embarrassed to say
this, but I didn't set up this laptop, I won it in a charity raffle two years
ago. Because it came with XP already loaded, all this time I just assumed
the drive was NTFS. It wasn't!! When I converted it, the problem was gone.
Still, I wonder why it would switch to the File Sharing disabled sharing tab
for that setting if it couldn't execute it. I would have thought that that
setting wouldn't even appear under Tools, Options, View if XP couldn't use
it. That's what really had me stumped.

I could kick myself for not checking the file system sooner. <grin>

-Leon

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

Wesley Vogel · Guest

Hi Leon,

<big grin> I actually left out the NTFS part when I posted.

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:BCC1DB08-81C8-4309-8061-B39439BCE8CD@microsoft.com,
Leon Myerson <LeonMyerson@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:

Wallenstein · Guest

Hello,

Just reviving this thread, because after lot's of googleing I still
have the same problem as Leon: No Security Tab in the File Properties
Dialog.

This thread seemed the most elaborative, giving many hints what could
have been the reason, however it still didn't solve the problem:

- I have Windows XP Professional (SP2)
- Its a NTFS Filesystem
- I have switched "Simple File Sharing" off
- I'm logged in as an Administrator
- I have checked the Server service (uninstalled and reinstalled
it)
- I have checked the group policy: Administrative Templates\Windows
Components\Windows Explorer\Remove the Security tab was "not
configured" (I have set it to deactivated)

Not much left to check ?

Any other ideas, what it could be?

May be this is relevant,:
Indeed I had a hard disk crash some days ago and restored the backup to
a new disk (using EMC Retrospect 7.5).
Everything seemed to have be restored correctly. However I'm not
absolutely sure whether the security tab problem existed already before
the last backup.

However now there are some weird things:
- The Removable Storage Mangagement Service is stopping by magic
(leaving no valuable trace in the event log).
- In the DCOM-Mangager dcomcnfg.exe there is no "Default Security"-Tab
(and no other security tab), where it should be.

And finally of course no security tab in the file property dialog.
This seemed for me the very basic root of all evil, so I started to
solve this first, before solving the other problems.

A free beer for that person that has the right idea, what's going wrong
with my machine.

Michael

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peterennis · Guest

Tried all this and still did not work for me.

Domain admin could not see security tab.

Remove PC from domain and join workgroup
Delete Administrator.domain account
Rejoin domain

Voila!

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