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XP is usually correct about things like disk space.
Thus, instead of assuming that you know that you have plenty of space, get
some diagnostic tools to show have much space you really have.
Be sure to run any diagnostic tool as a system administrator, or other
user's and system files may be hidden from you.
The first tool is windows explorer, right-click properties and look at the
pie-chart.
However, windows explorer may not see all files.
For example, if you use the Norton Protected Recycle Bin, its files "hide"
from the operating system. Eevn if you right-click the cycle-bin to remove
protected files, it actually leaves some around, dependning on the rention
period set by the user (default is 7 days).
Another tool is Treesize, a free download from:
http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml
Treesize sorts files and directories by size. Treesize works through XP, so
it will not see files hidden from the operating system.
A general diagnostic tool is AIDA32. It can tell you a lot about the
computer, including the actual hard drive size and how much of that is
partitioned (i.e., useable by XP). It is no longer supported, but is still
available from: http://www.sofotex.com/AIDA32-download_L9326.html
Be careful when interpretting data from any tool, including windows
explorer, and when assuming that you know have large your hard disk really
is: 1GB = 1024MB = 1024*1024KB. Thus, my primary hard drive, which is
nominally 120 "Gig" (or so the box said), shows as 111.8GB in AIDA. It
shows as 114470MB in Partition Magic. Note that the pie chart in windows
explorer shows both GB and bytes and they are obviously not related by one
billion but by 1024*1024*1024.
Further, on some PCs a part of the hard drive is allocated to a hidden
recovery partition. Thus, a few Gig may not be available to XP.
Finally, if none of the above help solve the mystery, get a bootable LINUX
"live" CD. These run LINUX from the CD, without installing anything on the
jard drive. Many images are available free at:
http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
KNOPPIX is easy to use, supports NTFS file systems, and has an explorer-like
interface. But, it is a large download.
Boot the PC into LINUX and examine the file system. Tricks that can hide
files from XP will generally not work to hide them from LINUX.
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| Quote: | I have been getting the "low disk space" message every time i boot up,
saying
that i only have 20MB-200MB left on the C drive, which i know is
completely
wrong. I have deleted numerous files and transfer countless files to my
external hard drive for the past week, and if this keeps continuing, im
not
going to have any more files to delete to create space!! (running Windows
XP,
40GB hard drive, 2.8gh P4, 1gb RAM~ Dell 4600) In the past week i have
cleared at least 10GB from my hard drive since ive gotten the message.
When this occurs, windows explorer decides to restart itself countless
times
in a row until i create more space, which has become annoying. Also, for
some
reason, (dont know if this is related) my taskbar has been resetting its
settings and no programs show up on the taskbar and it removes the quick
launch bar. AND i have to go in and uninstall/reinstall the audio device
every boot up to get it to work.
I noticed that going to regedit everytime i boot up is a short term fix
for
the taskbar problem, but i really dont feel like going through the trouble
everytime i turn my computer on.
I also have noticed that the processes running on my computer have
decreased, from 50 to around 38+ which is weird.
I know a decent amount of stuff about computers and have been able to keep
the computer going like this for a week or so. Also, i am debating buying
a
new computer just because of this one is getting old, or is there a way
that
i can avoid that and just fix this issue.
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Ken Blake, MVP
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| Quote: | This thread concerns low disk space. I was raising the possibility that
failure of proper cleanup of temporary files is one possible reason for a
full hard drive.
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If anybody's hard drive gets full because of undeleted temporary
files, he is in *dire* need of more hard drive space. For almost
anyone, simply deleting temp files would makes so small a difference
as to be inconsequential. I've never seen any drive with enough
undeleted temporary files to make a significant difference in amount
of free space.
| Quote: | If the original poster has a regular virus scan in operation
then it seems to me possible that temporary files will never be removed.
Gerry, do you have any opinion on my postulate that a virus scan, of
whatever brand (be it OneCare, Norton, McAfee, Whatever) results in a file
being marked as having been accessed at the time that it is scanned.
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I'm not Gerry, but let me point out that running a virus scan followed
by a quick look at your temp folder would demonstrate that your
"postulate" is false. I can't speak for *every* anti-virus program,
but I've never seen this occur.
| Quote: | If it
does, then the disk cleanup utility that comes with windows XP will not
remove the temporary files if a virus scan has been done in the last 7 days.
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As I said above, anti-virus programs don't do that, so it doesn't
matter when the last scan was done.
But where did you get the idea that disk cleanup won't remove a
temporary file that's been accessed within the last seven days? please
cite a web page that states that, if you know one. If that's true,
it's news to me. As far as I know, the only rule preventing the
deletion of a temporary file is that it can't be deleted if it is
currently in use (open).
| Quote: | Worse, disk cleanup will never remove temporary files if a virus scan is done
more than once a week.
I will take your suggestion and start a new thread on what may be a
deficiency with the disk cleanup utility.
Kenneth
"Gerry" wrote:
You are obviously not the person posting the original problem. I know
little about Windows Live OneCare. You need someone who does. You could
of course uninstall OneCare. You would do better to start your own
thread and not piggy back someone elses thread as this leads to
confusion. Hence my uncertainty when I replied to your first message.
Use the New Message option to start a new thread and then use Reply to
for follow ups.
http://www.microsoft.com/library/gallery/components/wn/3/locales/help/help_en-US.htm#GettingStarted
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Gerry
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rroentgen wrote:
"Gerry" wrote:
Did you make the original post?
Which post?
Disk CleanUp has never been the most effective tool. You need to run
it in all user profiles as otherwise it only removes file with in
the User Profile it is being run. You should also restart the
cpmputer before running Disk CleanUp as otherwise the system may not
have finished with them. Was the box before Temporary Files checked
before you ran Disk CleanUp?
I have Windows Live OneCare which runs Disk Cleanup Automatically as
part of a regular TuneUp schedule. There is no choice to run Windows
Live OneCare in any particular user profile. Since tuneup is set to
run weekly, the computer will have been rebooted several times in
between.
You can use cCleaner (freeware) which does a more thorough job.
http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp
http://www.ccleaner.com/
The problem is not that Disk CleanUp is not doing a thorough job. The
problem is that it is not doing its job at all!!
With any cleaner you need to proceed with caution. To be safe you
should create a restore point before using cCleaner. cCleaner also
offers backup before removal.
When using cCleaner think twice before checking Autocomplete Form
History under Internet Explorer. You do get a warning but this one
has irritating consequences. You may need to restore your system's
recollection of passwords after use so keep a record off computer so
that they can easily be re-entered.
Leave the Scan for Issues option alone.
I am surprised that you managed to generate 20 gb of temporary files.
Was this over a long period? What programme created so much?
Most of these Temporary files in the Windows/temp folder were created
after 16 June 2007; which is about the date that I first installed
Windows Live OneCare.
Furthermore most of these temporary files were created at about the
date and time on which OneCare ran one of its schedules or when I run
OneCare to view scan reports.
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Gerry
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rroentgen wrote:
Disk Cleanup may not remove temporary files if they have been
created or accessed within the last seven days. If a virus scan is
run then all files that are scanned, including temporary files, may
be marked as if having been accessed at the time of the scan.
At the moment my Windows/temp folder occupies 20Gig of drive space
because I had Windows Live OneCare set to run a virus scan daily
with the result that the "date accessed" of the files in the temp
folder never got to be more than 7 days old. This is agravated by
OneCare seeming to create a temporary file for its own use whenever
it runs, of about 75Meg, which it fails to remove when finished
with what its doing.
"Gerry" wrote:
Are you using a backup programme such as Norton Ghost?
I am not sure whether you are seeing all files and folders. Go to
Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View, Advanced Settings and
verify that the box before "Show hidden files and folders" is
checked and "Hide protected operating system files " is unchecked.
You may need to scroll down to see the second item. You should also
make certain that the box before "Hide extensions for known file
types" is not checked. Next in Windows Explorer make sure View,
Details is
selected and then select View, Choose Details and check before
Name, Type, Total Size, and Free Space. Even then there are still
certain folders that remain hidden and this regularly promps
discussion about "lost" disk space. The System Volume Information
folders containing System Restore points, which by default is
allocated 12% of the drive / partition, is just one example of
what remains hidden.
It is likely that an allocation of 12% has been made to System
Restore on your C partition which is over generous. I would reduce
it to 700 mb. Right click your My Computer icon on the Desktop and
select System Restore. Place the cursor on your C drive select
Settings but this
time find the slider and drag it to the left until it reads 700 mb
and exit. When you get to the Settings screen click on Apply and OK
and exit.
Another default setting on a large drive which could be wasteful is
that for temporary internet files especially if you do not store
offline copies on disk. The default allocation is 3% of drive.
Depending on your attitude to offline copies you could reduce this
to 1% or 2%. In Internet Explorer select Tools, Internet Options,
General, Temporary Internet Files, Settings to make the change. At
the same time look at the number of days history is held.
The default allocation for the Recycle Bin is 10 % of drive. Change
to 5%, which should be sufficient. In Windows Explorer place the
cursor
on your Recycle Bin, right click and select Properties, Global and
move the slider from 10% to 5%. However, try to avoid letting it
get too full as if it is full and you delete a file by mistake it
will bypass the Recycle Bin and be gone for ever.
Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp
to Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk
CleanUp, More Options, System Restore and remove all but the
latest System Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.
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Hope this helps.
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Italo3 wrote:
I have been getting the "low disk space" message every time i boot
up, saying that i only have 20MB-200MB left on the C drive, which
i know is completely wrong. I have deleted numerous files and
transfer countless files to my external hard drive for the past
week, and if this keeps continuing, im not going to have any more
files to delete to create space!! (running Windows XP, 40GB hard
drive, 2.8gh P4, 1gb RAM~ Dell 4600) In the past week i have
cleared at least 10GB from my hard drive since ive gotten the
message.
When this occurs, windows explorer decides to restart itself
countless times in a row until i create more space, which has
become annoying. Also, for some reason, (dont know if this is
related) my taskbar has been resetting its settings and no
programs show up on the taskbar and it removes the quick launch
bar. AND i have to go in and uninstall/reinstall the audio device
every boot up to get it to work.
I noticed that going to regedit everytime i boot up is a short
term fix for the taskbar problem, but i really dont feel like
going through the trouble everytime i turn my computer on.
I also have noticed that the processes running on my computer have
decreased, from 50 to around 38+ which is weird.
I know a decent amount of stuff about computers and have been able
to keep the computer going like this for a week or so. Also, i am
debating buying a new computer just because of this one is getting
old, or is there a way that i can avoid that and just fix this
issue.
Any help would be much appreciated! thanks!!
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Hi Ric,
It appears that some third-party shell extension, Multimedia codec or BHO is crashing the shell every time when you open a folder. You may want to check the event log to see what's happening.
http://www.winxptutor.com/eventlog.htm
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When I attempt to access My Computer, My Music, My Videos or any other
folders, I cannot. When I click on the icon, the taskbar disaapears for
moment. Then it will reappear after a few seconds. I can't access my files.
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"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:44:01 -0700, rroentgen
rroentgen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
This thread concerns low disk space. I was raising the possibility that
failure of proper cleanup of temporary files is one possible reason for a
full hard drive.
If anybody's hard drive gets full because of undeleted temporary
files, he is in *dire* need of more hard drive space. For almost
anyone, simply deleting temp files would makes so small a difference
as to be inconsequential. I've never seen any drive with enough
undeleted temporary files to make a significant difference in amount
of free space.
My winows/temp folder currently occupies 25Gigbytes and Disk Cleanup tool |
will not remove them.
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If the original poster has a regular virus scan in operation
then it seems to me possible that temporary files will never be removed.
Gerry, do you have any opinion on my postulate that a virus scan, of
whatever brand (be it OneCare, Norton, McAfee, Whatever) results in a file
being marked as having been accessed at the time that it is scanned.
I'm not Gerry, but let me point out that running a virus scan followed
by a quick look at your temp folder would demonstrate that your
"postulate" is false. I can't speak for *every* anti-virus program,
but I've never seen this occur.
I have done exactly this. After running Tuneup from Windows Live |
OneCare(which includes a virus scan which it runs after running disk cleanup)
every one of the several hundred files in the Windows/temp folder and all
other files on the computer are marked as Date Accessed as the date on which
tune up was run. I am now waiting until 7 days have lapsed to run tuneup
again to see if disk cleanup removes the temporary files.
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If it
does, then the disk cleanup utility that comes with windows XP will not
remove the temporary files if a virus scan has been done in the last 7 days.
As I said above, anti-virus programs don't do that, so it doesn't
matter when the last scan was done.
But where did you get the idea that disk cleanup won't remove a
temporary file that's been accessed within the last seven days? please
cite a web page that states that, if you know one. If that's true,
it's news to me. As far as I know, the only rule preventing the
deletion of a temporary file is that it can't be deleted if it is
currently in use (open).
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/261897#top
Says that "The Disk Cleanup tool does not delete temporary files that are
less than seven days old" (although it says that this KB article applies to
windows Millenium)
http://www.pctipsbox.com/force-disk-cleanup-to-purge-all-temporary-files/
Says...
"If you’ve ever run the Windows XP’s Disk Cleanup utility, you probably
discovered that your temporary files occupy a significant amount of space.
You might select the Temporary Files check box in order to allow the Disk
Cleanup utility to delete the files in the Temp folder, but the Disk Cleanup
utility will not remove all of the files. The reason for this oddity is that
the configuration for the Disk Cleanup utility does not allow deletion of
files accessed in the last seven days."
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As I said earlier Disk CleanUp is not the most efficient tool to use. If
you search your My Computer for files with a tmp file extension you will
most likely find others scattered in other folders. There a few on my
computer. Those in my Temp folder are all less than 48 hours old so I
cannot check whether Disk CleanUp observes a 7 day rule. I use cCleaner
and this does not remove files accessed in the last 48 hours. This is a
default setting, which the user can uncheck. Clearly both DiskCleanUp
and cCleaner check specific folders and tmp files placed in other places
do not get removed.
I have now found out that Disk CleanUp observes a 7 day rule, unless the
Registry is modified:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/cleantemp.htm
Accessing a file is apparently a factor taken into account.
My AVG Free Anti-Virus runs every morning at 8..00. Looking at the
Temporary Internet folder there is no evidence that a scan changes
access dates. You are using Windows Live OneCare and I do not know
whether this behaves differently. I am not sure to what extent an
experienced user would say the programme has a proven record.
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rroentgen wrote:
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My winows/temp folder currently occupies 25Gigbytes and Disk Cleanup
tool will not remove them.
I have done exactly this. After running Tuneup from Windows Live
OneCare(which includes a virus scan which it runs after running disk
cleanup) every one of the several hundred files in the Windows/temp
folder and all other files on the computer are marked as Date
Accessed as the date on which tune up was run. I am now waiting until
7 days have lapsed to run tuneup again to see if disk cleanup removes
the temporary files.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/261897#top
Says that "The Disk Cleanup tool does not delete temporary files that
are less than seven days old" (although it says that this KB article
applies to windows Millenium)
http://www.pctipsbox.com/force-disk-cleanup-to-purge-all-temporary-files/
Says...
"If you've ever run the Windows XP's Disk Cleanup utility, you
probably discovered that your temporary files occupy a significant
amount of space. You might select the Temporary Files check box in
order to allow the Disk Cleanup utility to delete the files in the
Temp folder, but the Disk Cleanup utility will not remove all of the
files. The reason for this oddity is that the configuration for the
Disk Cleanup utility does not allow deletion of files accessed in the
last seven days."
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What is your exact version of Windows XP.
Have you downloaded TV programmes of the Internet?
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Gerry
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Stourport, England
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rroentgen wrote:
| Quote: | "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:44:01 -0700, rroentgen
rroentgen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
This thread concerns low disk space. I was raising the possibility
that failure of proper cleanup of temporary files is one possible
reason for a full hard drive.
If anybody's hard drive gets full because of undeleted temporary
files, he is in *dire* need of more hard drive space. For almost
anyone, simply deleting temp files would makes so small a difference
as to be inconsequential. I've never seen any drive with enough
undeleted temporary files to make a significant difference in amount
of free space.
My winows/temp folder currently occupies 25Gigbytes and Disk Cleanup
tool will not remove them.
If the original poster has a regular virus scan in operation
then it seems to me possible that temporary files will never be
removed.
Gerry, do you have any opinion on my postulate that a virus scan, of
whatever brand (be it OneCare, Norton, McAfee, Whatever) results in
a file being marked as having been accessed at the time that it is
scanned.
I'm not Gerry, but let me point out that running a virus scan
followed by a quick look at your temp folder would demonstrate that
your "postulate" is false. I can't speak for *every* anti-virus
program, but I've never seen this occur.
I have done exactly this. After running Tuneup from Windows Live
OneCare(which includes a virus scan which it runs after running disk
cleanup) every one of the several hundred files in the Windows/temp
folder and all other files on the computer are marked as Date
Accessed as the date on which tune up was run. I am now waiting until
7 days have lapsed to run tuneup again to see if disk cleanup removes
the temporary files.
If it
does, then the disk cleanup utility that comes with windows XP will
not remove the temporary files if a virus scan has been done in the
last 7 days.
As I said above, anti-virus programs don't do that, so it doesn't
matter when the last scan was done.
But where did you get the idea that disk cleanup won't remove a
temporary file that's been accessed within the last seven days?
please cite a web page that states that, if you know one. If that's
true, it's news to me. As far as I know, the only rule preventing the
deletion of a temporary file is that it can't be deleted if it is
currently in use (open).
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/261897#top
Says that "The Disk Cleanup tool does not delete temporary files that
are less than seven days old" (although it says that this KB article
applies to windows Millenium)
http://www.pctipsbox.com/force-disk-cleanup-to-purge-all-temporary-files/
Says...
"If you've ever run the Windows XP's Disk Cleanup utility, you
probably discovered that your temporary files occupy a significant
amount of space. You might select the Temporary Files check box in
order to allow the Disk Cleanup utility to delete the files in the
Temp folder, but the Disk Cleanup utility will not remove all of the
files. The reason for this oddity is that the configuration for the
Disk Cleanup utility does not allow deletion of files accessed in the
last seven days."
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:44:00 -0700, rroentgen
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"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:44:01 -0700, rroentgen
rroentgen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
This thread concerns low disk space. I was raising the possibility that
failure of proper cleanup of temporary files is one possible reason for a
full hard drive.
If anybody's hard drive gets full because of undeleted temporary
files, he is in *dire* need of more hard drive space. For almost
anyone, simply deleting temp files would makes so small a difference
as to be inconsequential. I've never seen any drive with enough
undeleted temporary files to make a significant difference in amount
of free space.
My winows/temp folder currently occupies 25Gigbytes and Disk Cleanup tool
will not remove them.
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Why not? What happens when you try? Have you tried to remove them
manually? What happens when you try that?
25GB is an enormous size. I've never seen one that big.
| Quote: | But where did you get the idea that disk cleanup won't remove a
temporary file that's been accessed within the last seven days? please
cite a web page that states that, if you know one. If that's true,
it's news to me. As far as I know, the only rule preventing the
deletion of a temporary file is that it can't be deleted if it is
currently in use (open).
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/261897#top
Says that "The Disk Cleanup tool does not delete temporary files that are
less than seven days old" (although it says that this KB article applies to
windows Millenium)
http://www.pctipsbox.com/force-disk-cleanup-to-purge-all-temporary-files/
Says...
"If you’ve ever run the Windows XP’s Disk Cleanup utility, you probably
discovered that your temporary files occupy a significant amount of space.
You might select the Temporary Files check box in order to allow the Disk
Cleanup utility to delete the files in the Temp folder, but the Disk Cleanup
utility will not remove all of the files. The reason for this oddity is that
the configuration for the Disk Cleanup utility does not allow deletion of
files accessed in the last seven days."
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Then it looks like I am wrong about the seven days. Thanks for the
information.
The second link you provide talks about how to perform a registry edit
to remove the seven day restriction. That's probably a good thing to
do. The restriction makes no sense to me.
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If you could close a programme and the pagefile usage does not fall back
to what it was before you opened the programme you potentially have a
memory leak. This could be your problem judging by the contents of this
link:
http://www.google.com/search?tab=gw&hl=en&lr=&q=%22Nero%20Vision%20Express%22%20memory%20leak
You need to research further based on the actual versions of the
software you are using. In particular see if there are driver updates
available.
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| Quote: | Hi Gerry,
And thanks for giving me a clue where to look for the problem. I
think you hit the nail on the head as far as the page file usage
being the problem. When I open some of my video programs, the page
file usage jumps from around 230 MB to as high as 1.8 GB! And that
doesn't change when I close the program. When I had Nero Vision
Express open earlier PF usage was as indicated. At that point the
available physical memory was less than 5000K! No wonder everything
slows to a crawl. The question is why would this suddenly happen a
couple of weeks ago and what can I do about it. I have a ton of
video work to do but I can't do it with the computer in its present
state.
"Gerry" wrote:
Is the computer left on 24/7?
I would monitor pagefile usage to see how reliant the system is on
virtual usage.
Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage. Start it to
run immediately after start-up and look at the log. Pagefilemon takes
snapshots. You need to run it at the beginning of the session at then
run it again at intervals throughout the sessions. The log is
Pagefile log.txt. If you right click on the file in Windows Explorer
and select Send to, Desktop (Create Shortcut). The same applies to
XP_PageFileMon.exe.
A small utility to monitor pagefile usage:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm
Note programs using undo features, particularly those associated with
graphics and photo editing, require large amounts of memory so if
you use this type of programme check these first observing how the
page usage increases when they start and whether the usage decreases
when you close the programme.
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Hope this helps.
Gerry
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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ganymede wrote:
For the past couple of weeks my computer (AMD Athlon 1.3 Ghz, 1 GB
RAM) has slowed down dramatically for some unknown reason. I know a
1.3 Ghz CPU isn't that fast these days but until just recently it's
worked just fine for all of my needs, including playing video files,
streaming video, etc. For example, I click on an appli-
cation and it takes maybe two minutes before the application opens,
if at all. To get to this web site, it took two minutes for my
browser (IE or Firefox) to come up.
I've checked for the usual things such as viruses, adware fragmented
hard drive, insufficient virtual memory. Prior to this happening I
didn't install any new software or hardware. Sometimes, but not
always, it seems that the problem gets worse the longer the computer
is on. Earlier this evening I was able to author two DVDs but then
things just slowed down so much I couldn't even open the video files
needed to do the DVD authoring.
I've observed that most of the time when the slowdown occurs the CPU
% is quite low, say 2% to 5%. This evening, however, with all
applications closed, I noticed that at one point the CPU usage was
consistently between 90% to 100% and the hard drive light was on
steadily. Not sure what was going on. I also noticed that at times
explorer was using huge amounts of the system memory, in excess of
800 MB (out of a total of 1 GB). At the moment it's using only
27.6K which is about normal. One final thing that I've noticed is
that in the column "CPU" (not CPU%) the numbers for System Idle
Process and explorer usually add up 100 or very close to that. Not
sure what that column is measuring but thought I'd include that
info.
Didn't mean to have such a long post but wanted to include as much
information about the problem as I could. I'm at a loss as to
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R. Keesk
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: RE: Search Assistant Always Crashes in Windows XP Pro |
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But!!! How are search assistant/search companion and corrupted registry to be
removed? They seem not to be in Add/Remove Programs, nor in Windows
Components. Please explain.
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"SilentReaper" wrote:
| Quote: | Reinstalling the search assistant was the right path except for the search
assistants old registry keys that are corrupted are still in your computers
hive.. First remove the old corrupted registry keys for the search assistant
then reboot then reinstall the search assistant and it should function again
normally.... Most people do not realize that a malfunctioning program will
still store its corrupted registry keys in the hive.. The program needs to
be removed then removal of all its corrupted registry keys come next then
reboot to complete the removal process then reinstallation of the program
will take and will function again as normal...
"Peter-C" wrote:
Following assumes Search Assistant and Search Companion are same thing. If
not I need to rethink.
I have an annoying and peculiar problem with Search Assistant (Windows XP
Professional SP2 automatically updated.) If started by clicking on the
"Search" (with magnifying glass icon) on the Start menu it always crashes
before opening the folder with search options and just shows the dialog box
requesting a report be sent to Microsoft. (Have sent one report.)
However, if started by clicking on the "Search" (with magnifying glass icon)
on the tool bar of any open folder, Search Assistant starts and runs
perfectly as far as I can tell.
The problem occurred after being forced to do a system restore following the
crash of installation software supplied by an ISP. Foolishly (a bit ill and
jet lagged and didn't want to phone up for mailbox settings etc.) I thought I
would take the lazy way and allow the supplied software to do the setup for
me. (AAPT Australia if anyone needs to know - can give details of
circumstances if anyone else is affected or doesn't want to be.) The crash
occurred when the software failed to find the web page it was looking for and
I suspect this was in the middle of adding the required new email account.
After the crash email accounts were locked up and couldn't be fixed from
either Office or Control Panel. I suspected the problem was in Office
(Outlook) and tried reinstalling Office to no effect. Finally fixed the email
problem by a system restore.
I did not attempt to use Search Assistant during all this so can't say
whether the problem with it was initiated by the ISP software crash or the
system restore or all the problems of reinstalling including needing to
downlaod and use Microsoft Windows Installer Cleanup Utility to fix the
Registry to allow reinstallation of Office after the system Restore.
I have tried reinstalling Search Assistant files using Right-click on the
Srchasst.inf file, and then clicking Install. No effect.
I have tried altering preferences in Search Assistant after starting it from
a folder toolbar in the forlorn hope of maybe correcting some problem in the
Registry. The effect of this is that the next few attempts to start Search
Assistant is from the Start menu rather than a folder toolbar result in a
"sorry have to close" dialog rather than the "send report to Microsoft"
dialog. Thereafter it reverts to crashing with the "send report" dialog.
It's annoying rather than catastrophic because Search Assistant is still
available via folders. However, it's like an unidentified noise in your car -
something's not right and what is it?
Thanks for bothering to read this and for any thoughts in response.
Peter
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Maincat
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Critical Issue re: scandisk/defrag etc |
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| Quote: | I know its not the "fault" of SpeeDfrag, because basically ALL its doing
is
invoking scandisk with the switches active, then rebooting and using the
MS
defrag.exe from within the bare minimum shell...
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Get rid of whatever SpeeDfrag is and do scandisk and defrag without it. |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:03 am Post subject: Re: How To Recover From a Virus or Adware Infected PC |
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<googlee07@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:77307a05-d982-4523-935e-f484504ae881@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I currently do NOT use any antivirus or anti adware type software.
I'm pretty computer savvy,
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then you are obviously NOT "pretty computer savvy". it is the height of
selfishness NOT to use any AV at all - there is NO POSSIBLE WAY that you can
be 100% confident that any file you receive whether by email or floppy or CD
is virus-free. there is also the possibility of drive-by infection as well.
this attitude of "I don't need an AV app" is why the internet is awash with
spam sent from bot computers like yours that have been compromised unknown
to you.
get an AV program ASAP. |
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lorzini
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| Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: RE: Power Scheme Turn Off Problem |
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It really helped me too, thousands of miles away, here in Italy!
Unfortunately only for one more profile but likely now I can also restart
saving other optios.
I wanted you to know that you are GREAT
"ArtCinRI" wrote:
| Quote: | Hi Ka2H,
Well, you may not think you know much on the subject, but you DID solve my
problem. It has been an annoyance for several months, but now I can again
assign different monitor shut off times. And all my old schemes are again in
the drop down.
The first suggestion you gave did not work. I believe it is the one I had
tried myself two or three times before.
But it was the second suggestion that worked, that is the one that sent me
to http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm .
I downloaded the fix, I think it was Number 204. Once I applied this reg
fix, my power schemes were back in order, including ability to assign times
besides 1 minute.  )
So, thank you again for your posting and help. It proved once again how
valuable the newsgroup community can be.
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Art C in Rhode Island
"Ka2H" wrote:
"ArtCinRI" wrote:
In Control Panel/Display/Screen Saver/Power/Power Schemes the only Turn Off
Monitor time that will work is 1 minute. I tried to recreate schemes using
the tool MS suggested, it created power schemes but soon only two are shown,
Home/Office Desk and Portable/Laptop. If I try to create any others, they
disappear after the next reboot. Only the two mentioned remain, and, as I
say, limited to 1 minute on monitor turn off, if I enter any other time the
monitor just stays on and never shuts off.
I think I may have deleted some schemes a few months ago by mistake, that is
when this problem started.
Anyone have any suggestions for a restoration of the times or other
suggestions?
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Art C in Rhode Island
Not having had any problems with Power Schemes myself, I have no knowledge
but searched some other News Groups and came across two threads with problems
related to yours, one of which is confirmed resolved - the other not. In case
the resolutions provided in the threads do not apply to your case, they may
at least give you some ideas.
Cannot save new power options:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?query=Power+Scheme+Turn+Off+Problem&dg=&cat=en-us-ms-winxp&lang=en&cr=US&pt=&catlist=B0DE109D-10E1-4C3C-BCC9-8EB7A22FC6A0&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us
Energy options lost:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?query=Power+Scheme+configuration&dg=&cat=en-us-ms-winxp&lang=en&cr=US&pt=&catlist=B0DE109D-10E1-4C3C-BCC9-8EB7A22FC6A0&dglist=&ptlist=&exp=&sloc=en-us
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Leonard Grey
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: SPAM: welcome to our website,I konw you like |
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Spam
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